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    Default 'silent block' help

    did anyone change these two 'silent blocks' ever? Spare part {part number '60807395' - the hole thing with the alu} is no longer available from Alfa and I made them out of polyurathane. But vibrations give me a havy 'headake' and I wory for the aluminium parts.
    Any suggestions?

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    Wouldnt it be the same for the Deltas..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMB-Racing View Post
    Wouldnt it be the same for the Deltas..?
    I don't know. Do you have any clue {part number}?

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    That rod you are talking about (60807395) has been substituted by part number: 7668132. According to ePER...

    And this part is still available from Alfa Romeo dealers... it costs about 40? here in Portugal!

    And ePER says that it's the same part for Fiat Tipo, Tempra and Coup?, Lancia Delta and Dedra, and, of course, Alfa 155 Q4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pitucas View Post
    That rod you are talking about (60807395) has been substituted by part number: 7668132. According to ePER...

    And this part is still available from Alfa Romeo dealers... it costs about 40? here in Portugal!

    And ePER says that it's the same part for Fiat Tipo, Tempra and Coup?, Lancia Delta and Dedra, and, of course, Alfa 155 Q4.
    sorry but I was wrong about the part number, it is the 60807399 {not ...95} and it is a pad. I believe the newest part number was 82434626 and I'll have a look at ePer.
    I've already replace the 'rod' and I've found it here in Greece. The 'pad' is that I can not find. That's why I'm looking for a 'replacement'.

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    Does anyone had success on this?
    I can not find any replacement.
    Any ideas?

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    I seem to remember looking at that part a few years back, but can't for the life of me remember why.

    Have you thought about finding damper bushes the right size and fitting them instead? The bushes on the rear of the landrover are pretty large and might fit in the holes in the holder.
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    Yes, I thought about it, but there is a problem with this idea.
    The reason is, that the holes in these silentblocks are located excentral.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    I seem to remember looking at that part a few years back, but can't for the life of me remember why.

    Have you thought about finding damper bushes the right size and fitting them instead? The bushes on the rear of the landrover are pretty large and might fit in the holes in the holder.

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    Are you sure they aren't located centrally? It might be that the weight of the engine g/box is pulling the hole downwards and making it look off centre.
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    the part from bielstein:

    71094 Getriebeaufh?ngungsbuchse oben
    is the same i think!

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    That looks about right. For some reason I thought the original rubber part had open sections in it. But its been a while since I was under there so might be mistaken.

    Worth a try though.
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    Hi!

    Here is the file that contains this part too: http://www.bielstein.com/LANCIA/Delt...hl/LISTE_7.pdf

    I wrote them a mail about these blocks, I'll tell what their answer will be.

    Thanks for the tip!

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    I'll be visiting Bielstein on 7th of july

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    More bits for the rebuild or just for a look around?

    Never come across them before, but looks a useful place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    More bits for the rebuild or just for a look around?
    The looking part has been done at home
    This will be the picking up part for the orthered parts

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    Was'nt it Bielstein that bougth all Lancia Delta Integrale parts from Lancia when they source all the parts out? Well known Lancia spare part dealer, they also have plenty of parts on ebay.de for Alfa 155 Q4 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Integrale View Post
    they also have plenty of parts on ebay.de for Alfa 155 Q4 as well.
    Most of the engine parts are shared!
    There are some differeances, but al the main parts seems to be the same.
    Did some comparing on eper.

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    maybe a group buy for the bushes??

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    Be a damn sight easier to do, dealing with a company in Europe rather than one the other side of the world
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gery83 View Post
    Hi!

    Here is the file that contains this part too: http://www.bielstein.com/LANCIA/Delt...hl/LISTE_7.pdf

    I wrote them a mail about these blocks, I'll tell what their answer will be.

    Thanks for the tip!

    I've already ordered 2 pieces from them. They cost 93EUR incl. shipping.
    Not so bad I think.

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    Do not order these parts for your Q4!

    They arrived tomorrow, fine quality etc... BUT! They look the same from the pictures as the Q4 silent blocks, but they are much bigger!

    I'll post some photos in the evening, if anyone wants to see...
    I'm a bit sad now. Not because the 93Euros, but now I'm at the beginning once again. And I don't really know what to do.

    My last idea is to fill the holes in the old block with some windshield glue. Maybe that will fix it for a short period of time, but it is still not a professional solution...

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    Sorry to hear they don't fit.

    There must be a company out there that can manufacture custom bushes, I guess it is just a case of finding them.
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    Maybe someone like Powerflex or Superflex could make these but out of a softer material than there normal bushes etc. They would need an original block and a good few orders for a group buy I expect though.

    http://www.superflex.co.uk/
    http://www.powerflex.co.uk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaJack View Post
    Maybe someone like Powerflex or Superflex could make these but out of a softer material than there normal bushes etc. They would need an original block and a good few orders for a group buy I expect though.

    http://www.superflex.co.uk/
    http://www.powerflex.co.uk/
    How many other people have had to replace these bushes? They obviously don't wear out as quickly as wishbone bushes, but then again won't last forever either.
    The problem with getting a batch made up would be the number of people who want\need them. If they were cheap enough it wouldn't be a problem, but then again poly bushes seem to be pretty pricey for what they are.

    Anyone else need a set?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    Anyone else need a set?
    I probably would like a set. I will be replacing a lot of rubbers and bushes befor I'll fit my engine.

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