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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaJack View Post
    Oh, and I just saw the Car you drive in the profile. Masser QP!.....amazing how you can dislike someone so quickly
    Have you checked the domain of his email account? Bastard

    Seriously Colin, welcome to the place, be sure to check out all the manuals on the website, and feel free to ask anything about the car. It was me that bought it from the guy that crashed it. Spent many an hour underneath it. Be nice to see it up and running again.
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    Hi guys,
    Just got home from work and logged back in to the forum, so thank you all for the quick replies, but maybe I should have put the company van, Fiat Scudo, as my car, rather than the QP, I don't want people going off me too quickly!.........
    All the best,
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    Oooh, another race car in development

    There are two people you might want to speak with...Roger Evans at Peal Alfa; he's raced 155s in the ARCA championship (it is this one you're mean, not AROC I think?) and is currently successfully campaigning a monster GTV; secondly Jim Neilson who is/was a member here. He raced a home tuned Q4 in Australia and did a lot of development work that might give you some ideas or pointer about what to do or avoid.

    Sadly, I don't think you'll get any race panels off the shelf, but the factory race cars were run by Alfa Corse in 1994 (skinny) and Prodrive in 1995 (widebody).

    Keep us informed on progress please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa Patch View Post
    Hi

    Racing seems the way to go with the car. The AROC regs seem unfavourable (being polite) to a Q4 in that they force you into the 'monster' class just because it has a turbo. No equivalence factor allowing you to run a less modified car with thye V6's seems very harsh.

    It would be worth contact them to see if regs for 2013 have been drawn up as subtle changes could affect the direction you take. I'd love to race mine but as you say the costs involved with getting it to that spec would be mega. I expect class A includes old WTCC cars and the like, they'll take some beating.

    Not a helpful reply from me I know, anyhow welcome and it'll be great to see the cars development.

    With regards to the class structure it woud appear that they don't allow ex DTM, WTCC, etc, in the class, so each car has to be personally built.
    I certainly don't have unlimted money to spend on the car, so budget is a very real consideration, but on the other hand I am prepared to spend quite a chunk on money on developing it and getting it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
    Oooh, another race car in development

    There are two people you might want to speak with...Roger Evans at Peal Alfa; he's raced 155s in the ARCA championship (it is this one you're mean, not AROC I think?) and is currently successfully campaigning a monster GTV; secondly Jim Neilson who is/was a member here. He raced a home tuned Q4 in Australia and did a lot of development work that might give you some ideas or pointer about what to do or avoid.

    Sadly, I don't think you'll get any race panels off the shelf, but the factory race cars were run by Alfa Corse in 1994 (skinny) and Prodrive in 1995 (widebody).

    Keep us informed on progress please

    wrinx
    Thank you for the info that's very useful, would you happen to have the contact details for Roger or Jim?

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    I did wonder why this went so cheap..... and I bet its probably because anyone seriously into buying a Q4 would keep an eye on the forums for all the info like this thread brought up!

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    I did buy the car, but only registered on the site and found out all this info after buying it!..... Opppps...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbs View Post
    Thank you for the info that's very useful, would you happen to have the contact details for Roger or Jim?
    Roger: http://www.peakalfa.co.uk/

    Jim: http://forum.berlinasportivo.com/pri...do=newpm&u=278 This might not be the right link, but it should allow you to private message him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbs View Post
    I did buy the car, but only registered on the site and found out all this info after buying it!..... Opppps...........
    Well, with regards to the shell, I would focus your attention around the passenger side subframe mounting point. Not where it bolts to the shell around the footwell, but the mounting point forward of that. The subframe is a good one, it came from a Q4 that went sideways into a telegraph pole (not that hard)

    But some good news for you, when the car arrived with me, the engine only had 1800 miles under its belt. I didn't put many miles on it, and from the look of it the guy you bought it from didn't either. So, despite the fact there was never any warranty with regards to the mileage of the engine, I'm confident the engine has less than 2k miles on it.
    Oh and its not a rebuilt motor, it was a crate engine from Fiat Spa. originally destined for an integrale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
    Roger: http://www.peakalfa.co.uk/

    Jim: http://forum.berlinasportivo.com/pri...do=newpm&u=278 This might not be the right link, but it should allow you to private message him.

    wrinx
    Thank you, I've just saved peakalfa in my favourites, and emailed Jim to see if he can help.
    Best regards,
    Colin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    Well, with regards to the shell, I would focus your attention around the passenger side subframe mounting point. Not where it bolts to the shell around the footwell, but the mounting point forward of that. The subframe is a good one, it came from a Q4 that went sideways into a telegraph pole (not that hard)

    But some good news for you, when the car arrived with me, the engine only had 1800 miles under its belt. I didn't put many miles on it, and from the look of it the guy you bought it from didn't either. So, despite the fact there was never any warranty with regards to the mileage of the engine, I'm confident the engine has less than 2k miles on it.
    Oh and its not a rebuilt motor, it was a crate engine from Fiat Spa. originally destined for an integrale.
    Thanks Steve,
    From what everyone is saying I've obvioulsy got to pay careful attention to the shell. And good news that the engine will be nice and new inside, but I had planned to look into what upgrades are available, as I don't think it would be competitive in class A in a fairly standard form, especially as I've just learnt from one of the links on here that Peak Alfa are running a supercharged 3.2 GTV in class A!...
    All the best,
    Colin

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    What are the restrictions going to be on the class you are aiming for?

    I've always thought that a 155 running the back axle form the Q4 mated up to a Fiat 20vt motor up front would make for an interesting car.

    Whether it would all fit is another matter.
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    hi, dont we have another member who has a race car running in europe as well? is he still about? this one : http://www.berlinasportivo.com/marqu..._zillinger.php

    i can also remember speaking some time ago to Rusper alfa about my Q4 and being told they built one with full integrale suspension here on this page even mentions they raced a Q4 http://www.rusperalfaromeo.com/aboutus.htm best of luck with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by markgq4 View Post
    hi, dont we have another member who has a race car running in europe as well? is he still about? this one : http://www.berlinasportivo.com/marqu..._zillinger.php
    Wolfgang is still about, but he's traded the 155 in for a 75 V6. The 155 was a Euro-spec touring car, an ER2. From the pics and details, there is an awful lot of trick parts in the car. Not sure how eligible it would be for the Aroc races.

    Be interested to hear more about Rusper's Q4 with integrale suspension. Fitting the integrale setup at the rear would be an awful lot of work.
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    Colin you could also speak to Neil Smith, current Alfa race hampion who races the ex-Tarquini 156 - he used to be an Integrale dealer so knows these cars pretty well. Was also the ARCA race preparer of the year 2011 - he looks after my Q4 and is based near Worcester where I am based - tell 01386 555523 - nice chap.

    I have also hear very good things about Roger Evans but never dealt with him.

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    With that in mind can anyone point me in the direct of obtaining a race replica body kit for the car? I'm sure to buy a body kit off the shelf would be the easiest option, or even to who originally built the cars back in the day, they may still have the moulds for the race bodywork. I still haven't decided to go for the more adventurous DTM look, or the more straightforward BTCC look, but in reality it will end up being decided by what's available as that will have such an implication on the cost of preparing the shell.

    I have looked all over and never found any moulds for the alfa155 and not many parts.
    I have Got a pair of Carbon skirts for an 94/95 dtm car and a part of the front spoiler from an stw car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arguti View Post
    Colin you could also speak to Neil Smith, current Alfa race hampion who races the ex-Tarquini 156 - he used to be an Integrale dealer so knows these cars pretty well. Was also the ARCA race preparer of the year 2011 - he looks after my Q4 and is based near Worcester where I am based - tell 01386 555523 - nice chap.

    I have also hear very good things about Roger Evans but never dealt with him.
    Thank you for the info, I'll have a word with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter holst View Post
    With that in mind can anyone point me in the direct of obtaining a race replica body kit for the car? I'm sure to buy a body kit off the shelf would be the easiest option, or even to who originally built the cars back in the day, they may still have the moulds for the race bodywork. I still haven't decided to go for the more adventurous DTM look, or the more straightforward BTCC look, but in reality it will end up being decided by what's available as that will have such an implication on the cost of preparing the shell.

    I have looked all over and never found any moulds for the alfa155 and not many parts.
    I have Got a pair of Carbon skirts for an 94/95 dtm car and a part of the front spoiler from an stw car.
    I've been searching the internet like a mad thing for the past week or so and I can't seem to find any body kits either.
    Unless I go for some kind of bespoke build, which would be outrageously expensive, I think what I'm going to have to is go for more of a BTCC group N standard look. Unless someone on here far more knowledgeable than me comes up with some new information it looks like that's the way I'm going to have to go. I did want to do something a little more adventurous but if it's not to be, then so be it.
    I do use a body panel fabricator in my normal business so maybe the way forward would be to work out what wheel and trye package I'm going to use, and then ask him to flare the arches to clear the tyres, and possibly leave the body modifications at that.

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    Have you taken a look at this thread : http://forum.berlinasportivo.com/sho...?t=2171&page=2 from post #37 onwards.

    Its being created from scratch by one of our Greek members but hopefully when its all finished we will be offering the kit made from the original moulds through the shop.

    Is that the sort of thing you are after?
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    Hi Steve,
    I've just posted on that thread to see if they are available. It's a little bit difficult to say if it's suitable for what I'm trying to do as I can't see how wide the wheel arches are, and whether or not it would offer it any major advantage over just fitting a pair of wide front wings.
    I think the thing to do is take a look at the kit once it becomes available.
    All the best,
    Colin

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    The kit is still being worked on at the moment, still got the front and rear bumpers to fabricate.

    Keep an eye on the thread, its kept pretty much up to date.
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    Hi Steve,
    Will do, this is my first foray into forums, so I'm still earning how to use them. But I'm getting the hang of it as it looks like I'll be spending a lot of time on here!...
    All the best,
    Colin

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