166 Brembo caliper brackets.

**Steve Webb** · 14-12-11, 20:58

Hi all, I've just had another email asking where to get the mounting brackets for the 166 Brembo calipers.
Just out of interest, how many of you out there are looking for the brackets, or might be looking for the brackets in the future?

Cheers

**Suzumushi** · 15-12-11, 08:55

Originally Posted by Steve Webb

Hi all, I've just had another email asking where to get the mounting brackets for the 166 Brembo calipers.
Just out of interest, how many of you out there are looking for the brackets, or might be looking for the brackets in the future?

Cheers

i'm looking for a set of two (for two cars)

regards
W

**Brul(tm)** · 15-12-11, 09:07

For now I don't know what I am going to do with the brakes.
Haven't made up my mind what kind of big brake solution I want.

Maybe in the near future, but in the Netherlands there is somebody who makes these brackets regularly.

**Integrale** · 15-12-11, 20:55

I am after a pair of brackets

**fochista** · 20-12-11, 11:48

Hi all!

As I've the calipers already I'm basically interested...

But I've one doubt:
I've also got the original bolts to the 166 brembo calipers and made some measurements concerning the lenght of the bolts.
I found out that the bolts are only long enough for a bracket that has a thickness of about 14mm (max. 15mm).....

The bracket of aluminium 7075 (the drawings are around here in another thread) has a thickness of 20mm. This means, that you will have to use longer bolts either, or you have to make the bracket thinner...

Longer bolts are not available everywhere...
If you make the bracket thinner, does it sustain the load???

Or should it be made of steel then?!?
But steel is much more heavy...

Saluti, Martin

**peter holst** · 06-01-12, 09:54

any news about the thickness-problem?

**wrinx** · 06-01-12, 23:49

UK owners are using steel 10mm brackets and spacers...no problems whatsoever.

wrinx

**fochista** · 09-01-12, 08:52

First of all: No news on the thickness problem yet.

I thought about making it out of steel instead of aluminium and make it just about 14mm or 15mm thick. Instead of 20mm.

First of all I'll make the bracket out of wood to check the fitment, next time (January or February).

Wrinx, are the spacers you are using with your 10mm brackets about 5mm thick???
If yes, that would match my intentions.

Best regrads!

Martin

**fochista** · 13-08-12, 21:46

Hi all!

It's time for an update here, isn't it?!?

First of all: The brackets have a thickness of 20mm.
I made the brackets out of wood first and checked the fitment, also with the wheels (TSW EVO 7,5J x 16 ET 35).

Take a look!

Tanti saluti, fochista.

**fochista** · 13-08-12, 21:49

I was forced to mod the calipers in order not to touch the rims.

**fochista** · 13-08-12, 21:51

I made a drawing of the brackets and searched for a company who could make the brackets for me. I found it. In the meantime I painted the calipers with black brake-caliper-paint.

The brackets are made out of "Vergütungsstahl V 320 42Cr Mo4" and i finished them using an epoxy primer and black paint.

**Steve Webb** · 14-08-12, 21:03

What brake disks are you using there? (166\coupe?)

**santino** · 14-08-12, 21:38

Alfa Mito, very similar like coupe.

**hf hpe** · 17-08-12, 08:31

I see in last picture that the pads are not within the brake disc.
We discuss it. The disc will over heating.

**fochista** · 23-08-12, 16:42

Originally Posted by hf hpe

I see in last picture that the pads are not within the brake disc.
We discuss it. The disc will over heating.

Yes, I'd like to discuss it. I made some additional photos:

At the first picture you can see, that the brake pad overlaps the inner shape of the disc surface of about 4 or 5 mm (Thats why I wrote "...probably the Mito discs fit better..." in post no. 21).
At the 2nd, 3rd and the 4th pic you can see, that the calipers are near to the disc in order to fit the 16" rims. Thats also the reason for the mod of the calipers which you can see on the pics at post no. 10 of this thread.
There is hardly no overlapping of the pads at the outer shape of the discs.

The other two pics should give an Idea of the wear of discs after about 1500km "hard road use" on the edge of the austrian alps (up and down between 400m and 900m over the see

. No highway. No track use, till yet. But on the coming Sunday...

I had no problems with overheating till now, except some smoke coming from the brakes at stopping after about 7km "downhill". It was so less that I wouldn't have seen it during moving on.

Best regards, Martin

**fochista** · 23-08-12, 17:17

Another extension:

The calipers before the modification of post no. 10. I just used a grinder...

Best regards, Martin

**fochista** · 23-08-12, 15:53

Originally Posted by santino

Alfa Mito, very similar like coupe.

Yes, there are small differences and probably the Mito discs fit better, because the measurement H is smaller... maybe the surface for the brake pads is bigger then?!?

First PIC is the "Coupe disc", second is the Mito disc...

Measurement D is also different, but it's only 0.1mm.

**fochista** · 23-08-12, 15:35

I'm using the discs from the coupe Fiat 20VT.
166 doesn't fit because of 5 studs and different bolt circle (108mm) but surely they would fit better to the brake pads. I'll post pics later on.

Originally Posted by Steve Webb

What brake disks are you using there? (166coupe?)

**Integrale** · 17-08-12, 09:46

I want brackets, but i have 147 GTA brembo brakes witch is 305mm. Is they the same as 166 caliper?

**fochista** · 23-08-12, 15:59

Originally Posted by Integrale

I want brackets, but i have 147 GTA brembo brakes witch is 305mm. Is they the same as 166 caliper?

No. I'm 99 percent sure, that they are NOT THE SAME. You'll need to make other brackets for 147 GTA calipers.

These brackets fit only on 155 Q4 and V6 with the 4-pot Calipers from AR 166 V6 and the brake discs from the Coupe Fiat 20VT!!!
Maybe also with the Brake discs from Mito TB but this is not tested!!!

**Da_Fuse** · 22-09-12, 10:19

Hi, I'm new here, and that's my first post. I like the forum very much, i think that it's very helpful.

So here it is my question. Why didn't you mod the schenk holes (the ones that the caliper bolts on), because they're made of iron which is stronger then the aluminium of the calipers?

**Steve Webb** · 23-09-12, 09:44

Originally Posted by Da_Fuse

Hi, I'm new here, and that's my first post. I like the forum very much, i think that it's very helpful.

So here it is my question. Why didn't you mod the schenk holes (the ones that the caliper bolts on), because they're made of iron which is stronger then the aluminium of the calipers?

Do you mean modify the holes on the hub to fit the new calipers?
Part of the reason for these brackets is to enable the use of larger disks, so the calipers need to be moved further out from the hub. (305mm disks usually instead of the regular 284mm)

**Da_Fuse** · 23-09-12, 10:29

No, no, I didn't mean to modify the holes of the hub. I ment that for me when you use the 166 calipers it safer not to modify the caliper, which is made of aluminium(like the colegue did in post #10), but to modify the holes on the schenk for the old caliper , because the schenk it's made of iron, and it is stronger.

**fochista** · 23-09-12, 15:17

Hi!

Sorry, I don't know what you mean with...

Originally Posted by Da_Fuse

to modify the holes on the schenk for the old caliper

Could you please try to explain it with other words, or pics probably?!?

BTW: I made this mod of the brembo calipers in order to fit under 16" rims.
It would have been also possible to make brackets which need NO mod of calipers and NO mod of the hub, but then they wouldn't fit under 16" rims because the calipers would be a little more (about 4mm radial) outside of the wheel center (and the brake disc, of course).

Best regards, Martin

**Da_Fuse** · 24-09-12, 06:58

Ok, so there is a misunderstanding....

For me schenk is the part on which holds on the shock absorber, the loin and the rake thаt you turn with, and hub is the spinning part with the holes that you bolt the brake disc and after that the wheel... so.... Maybe Hub for you and schenk for me is the same part... or I'm wrong...

I ment that for me it's safer to mode the holes of the HUB/schenk that you mount the bracket for the new caliper ), than to mode the caliper which is made from aluminium... Now I'll post an image to be clear...

Photo... http://dafuse.snimka.bg/automobiles/...4.28535076.big