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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    On a slightly different note, how do you find the Wilwood calipers?
    I found them by using the internet.


    Seriously, I haven't had them fitted long and I know Wilwood are not in the same league as AP or Alcon and the price reflects this, I would say they are more than good enough for road use. I am using Redstuff pads, there is no squeal and they work great.
    A trackday will give me more knowledge of them.

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    Are the AP disks and top hats standard (unmodified) AP equipment? Can you tell me the part numbers please?

    Do they fit under 16" wheels - I THINK that I could use 315mm disks - but certainly not 320..

    jim..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnielsen View Post
    Are the AP disks and top hats standard (unmodified) AP equipment? Can you tell me the part numbers please?

    Do they fit under 16" wheels - I THINK that I could use 315mm disks - but certainly not 320..

    jim..
    Only the discs, calipers and pads are off the shelf, the rest is specially made:



    They are a 310 x 32 disc and fit under a standard 16" wheel easy, I have some AP on my other car which are 315, but because the AP caliper is more performance biased item (less bulky) I could run a 320 disc with those in a Motorsport 16" wheel.

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    If tempted to go the floating disc route be sure they are designed correctly they shouldn't be clamped up tight on capscrews and any expansion slots should not be a square ended cut. If they are they are made like this ^^^^ there is a high probability they will fail in a bad way, trying to clamp steel and aluminium together and putting it through multiple heat cycles just doesn't work without correct provision for expansion. This is without considering the grade of alloy used to make the bells, there is a reason quality brake setups cost lots of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evodelta View Post
    I found them by using the internet.
    Congratulations on giving that joke an airing on its 100th Birthday

    Just curious about Wilwood as I seem to be seeing their calipers more and more on cars that are more about the go and less about the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1NRO View Post
    trying to clamp steel and aluminium together and putting it through multiple heat cycles just doesn't work without correct provision for expansion.
    I wouldn't have thought the bells in this were made of Aluminium, surely its just not strong enough for the job?

    Oh and play nice guys, don't want to have to take your handbags away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    Congratulations on giving that joke an airing on its 100th Birthday

    Just curious about Wilwood as I seem to be seeing their calipers more and more on cars that are more about the go and less about the show.
    I'll collect my prize later.

    I suppose the ones in the pic are a pretty good example of the durability, as they are of an earlier design which is now NLA, they came from a track car so have seen some abuse and are working fine. Time will tell as to what I think of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    I wouldn't have thought the bells in this were made of Aluminium, surely its just not strong enough for the job?

    Oh and play nice guys, don't want to have to take your handbags away.
    That's an aluminium bell, no harm in that if done right. No place for sharp steps, edges, slots or rock solid mountings.

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    Well everyday is a school day as they say.

    I guess I'm just used to the Aluminium casings etc on the mowers I use, which tend to have the consistency of cheese.
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    It's another classic case of the armchair experts making assumptions on something which they have no knowledge or experience of.

    To suggest that something is X Y or Z, without actually knowing, testing or being able to see detail is quite idiotic beyond compare.

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    1994 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4: Dozeing in the garage.
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    Just basic engineering practice I think you'll find.

    Spend some time on google and see how proper brake bells are attached to rotors, nothing difficult about it other than potentailly likely to eat into profit margins when hawking low budget products or being blinded by "monkey see, monkey do"

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