Data logging

**Brul(tm)** · 09-06-11, 18:32

Sooner or later I want to use data logging when running again. I am far away from this objective, but I would like to know what people here on Berlina Sportivo are using.

We all have seen nice graphs and film material from Jim and his progress at the track

I already purchased an LC-1 and AFR gauge because this is the very basic required when starting to work on your engine (in my opinion).
Besides this I already have a boost gauge (Defi Link system), limmited in logging options.

Innovate has some nice products (DL-32) that could help me in gathering this data. (temperatures, boost, etc.)

I would like to hear what others are using for data logging and what their experiences are on this subject. I want to figure out if the DL-32 is the tool for me or should I consider something else?

Regards,
Marc

**Q4Jan** · 10-06-11, 05:12

Marc, not to sound annoying, but please get the car running before worrying about less important stuff. Time to focus, at last. How many years since the car was alright?

**Brul(tm)** · 10-06-11, 11:03

That was not the question

Some things come together at some point that is usefull to pay attention.
Still short of time, but on schedule

Regards,
Marc

**jimnielsen** · 10-06-11, 22:49

Marc, I am using a race technology DL-1. I have found that the most important thing about these devices is 'ease of use'. It has to be simple to connect sensors and to retrieve data - or you will end up with no data. My DL-1 is the original version - the new one is even better in that it has more inputs. its amazing how fast you can use up the ports..

I am logging..

Boost pressure
oil pressure
oil temp
water temp
fuel pressure
RPM
speed (in two different ways)
air inlet temp (before intercooler)
air inlet temp (at manifold)

~jim..

**jNk** · 10-06-11, 23:25

Not really data logging so slighty offtopic but simple reading : Which program can read our ECU via an ELM327 USB interface with the proper cable ?
My mechanic has bought an ELM327 USB interface and diagnostic cables and i tried several programs but none of them could communicate with my cars ECU. We tested the interface and the cable with a 156 ECU with success.
I found the FiatEcuScan program but not yet tested it although i cannot found our ECU in that programs database.

ps.: Last year we tried a pro device, namely the Bosch KTS 540. My mechanics 155 1.8 was communicate with it, My Q4 wasnt.

**Brul(tm)** · 11-06-11, 09:54

Originally Posted by jNk

Not really data logging so slighty offtopic but simple reading : Which program can read our ECU via an ELM327 USB interface with the proper cable ?
My mechanic has bought an ELM327 USB interface and diagnostic cables and i tried several programs but none of them could communicate with my cars ECU. We tested the interface and the cable with a 156 ECU with success.
I found the FiatEcuScan program but not yet tested it although i cannot found our ECU in that programs database.

ps.: Last year we tried a pro device, namely the Bosch KTS 540. My mechanics 155 1.8 was communicate with it, My Q4 wasnt.

Try this link. But I am not sure if Sander already had time to look into the Q4 ecu, this is different than the other 155's. Last time I looked at this, it still wasn't possible. He also offers a caple to connect through USB.

Regards,
Marc

**Brul(tm)** · 11-06-11, 09:58

Originally Posted by jimnielsen

I have found that the most important thing about these devices is 'ease of use'. It has to be simple to connect sensors and to retrieve data - or you will end up with no data.

Thanks Jim, very usefull feedback

I agree with you that it needs to be simple an easy to operate and install. That is what I am looking for. I need to install and operate it

I'll take a look at the DL-1 you mentioned. Is this the logger you use?
It sounds like it will do the same as the Innovate DL-32, i will compare them.

Regards,
Marc

**jimnielsen** · 12-06-11, 22:40

Marc, I have never seen the Innovate DL-32, but having had a look at it just now it has a couple of interesting features..

1. an inbuilt map sensor (I use an external one with my DL-1)
2. a 5v+ output to drive sensors (the DL-1 has one too and this is essential..)

You might want to have a look at the main analysis software and compare the two systems as this is where you get to see your data.. The Race technology system has been well developed over a number of years, and has a lot of good features especially ones that make it simple to 'map' 3rd party sensors into the system..

have a look at the user forums on the innovate website to see what issues people have the device. I will look at this system myself, I think it looks very keen for the price..

cheers., jim..

**Brul(tm)** · 15-06-11, 17:48

Today the mailman arrived with a big box that makes me smile

What's in it....

LC-1 lambda controller with sensor

And of course a gauge for realtime display in the car.

More packages on the way, but they are engine parts and tools

Regards,
Marc

**jimnielsen** · 15-06-11, 21:59

How come you needed two AFR's??

**Brul(tm)** · 15-06-11, 22:35

Originally Posted by jimnielsen

How come you needed two AFR's??

I don't. This went a bit wrong in the confusion of the discontinuing the XD-1. The idea was to use "a" gauge in combination with the LC-1 for displaying the AFR results.

Regards,
Marc