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    Default Intercooler tech.

    Thought I'd reinstate this thread as it was pulling up some good info with regards to endtank design.
    From looking at the original IC design it looks like the plastic endtanks may have been employed so they could obtain a good tank design cheaply? The original IC does seem to perform to a resonable standard without being overly large.

    I've attached a couple of pics to this post and a pdf article that looks into endtank design.

    The first pic is of the standard IC alongside an aftermarket , 'improved one' , the second pic is how I think the aftermarket one could be improved further.
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    And for a little background reading take a look at a couple of these links:

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    What do you think about this intercooler? http://www.lanciahf.eu/intercooler_lancia_delta.html it's similar at the one you have shown on your post, but not exactly the same.

    I'm thinking to go for it because it will fit on the same place that the OEM intercooler and is wider than it, i supose it will cool the air better than the OEM one.

    Is made from PACE PRODUCTS http://www.paceproducts.co.uk/public...=car/fiatcoupe i have sent a request about the price and the answer was 400 ?

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    Looks like a good start, should improve flow with the increase in charge area. Although it does seem rather expensive at €400
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    If you haven't had a look around the front of the original IC, this is the diffuser that is sat infront of it. Not good for overall airflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    If you haven't had a look around the front of the original IC, this is the diffuser that is sat infront of it. Not good for overall airflow.



    This ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    If you haven't had a look around the front of the original IC, this is the diffuser that is sat infront of it. Not good for overall airflow.

    Quote Originally Posted by jNk View Post
    This ?
    Is there a problem with that photo that I linked to?

    Buy yes it is the same as in the attachment. The diffuser is there because most of the IC is tucked neatly behind the fog light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    If you haven't had a look around the front of the original IC, this is the diffuser that is sat infront of it. Not good for overall airflow.

    Quote Originally Posted by jNk View Post
    This ?

    Thats weird, when you quote with that pic, it takes all the '\' out of the link.

    But yes that diffuser, I guess its there to try and get some airflow over the IC after its been tucked behind the foglight.
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    And now the postings are going squiffy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    Is there a problem with that photo that I linked to?
    Yes, Cant see any photo in the #5 post.
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    I'll try again with the pic:



    Now can you all see that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    I'll try again with the pic:



    Now can you all see that?
    No, but the url was wrong(used "\" instead of "/") in your post, I fixed it in this reply.
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    Cheers, just out of interest what browser do you use?
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    I am using Opera most of the times and Firefox now and then. I've checked the picture problem with both browsers, no difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jNk View Post
    No, but the url was wrong(used "" instead of "/") in your post, I fixed it in this reply.
    Yes, just realised that in the other thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie_ View Post
    i have sent a request about the price and the answer was 400 ?

    Forgot to ask, did Pace back up the price of this IC with any flow figures or cooling claims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie_ View Post
    i have sent a request about the price and the answer was 400 ?

    Forgot to ask, did Pace back up the price of this IC with any flow figures or cooling claims?
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    No Steve, they didn't say anything about that.

    I have one more pic for comparasion with OEM intercooler and one with the PACE intercooler mounted on a Lancia Delta II HF HPE


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    Anyone know were they selling the intercooler in post nr 1? I am looking for a bigger one and the orginale. I remember from another tread that it was 33% bigger and fit in the orginale position.

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    No-one...it was a custom built mod. I emailed Sammi to find out more but no reply

    Nearest will be the Pace cooler mentioned further down.

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    Ok, thanks anyway. I have to see what I can find...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Integrale View Post
    Anyone know were they selling the intercooler in post nr 1? I am looking for a bigger one and the orginale. I remember from another tread that it was 33% bigger and fit in the orginale position.
    One of my friend is a custom IC manufacturer and he can make that IC. I've spoken with him about that last weekend and the price is roughly €200-250. I will speak with him soon for more details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jNk View Post
    One of my friend is a custom IC manufacturer and he can make that IC. I've spoken with him about that last weekend and the price is roughly ?200-250. I will speak with him soon for more details.
    That price sound's fantastic, I am intrested!!!

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    Does he fancy doing a run...would help his profit margin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
    Does he fancy doing a run...would help his profit margin?

    wrinx
    I'll second that.
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