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    hi
    i just send an email to bilstein for the middle bearing that support the drive shaft the answer was really fast this time
    but they ask 189 euro +postage

    this part when it was on production costs 66.83
    they ask it 3 times up
    is this the same as ours or this one is something stronger?

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    It is cheaper than the now newly produced ones. (wich are almost 250 euro a piece!).

    So if it is stronger or likewise i suggest you buy this one.

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    I would suggest to ask bielstein if that's an uprated one. It looks exactly like OEM part.
    I personally made a custom bearing for myself, all the work cost me 100 euros, but it would not be good for daily car.

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    that bearing is produced by SKF so if you have dealer nearby you can get it cheaper than that
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    Quote Originally Posted by wladex View Post
    that bearing is produced by SKF so if you have dealer nearby you can get it cheaper than that
    Serialnumber..?
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    SKF discontinued the whole unit long ago. They don't have it in stock for ages.
    SKF however does have a bearing itself (without a rubber part and monting bracket)

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    i'll check later today

    I didn't know that was discontinued. But I'll check if there is here in Rijeka/Croatia some forgoten part. When I repared it mounth ago I replaced rubber with alluminum in mounting bracket and stuff works great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindus View Post
    I would suggest to ask bielstein if that's an uprated one. It looks exactly like OEM part.
    I personally made a custom bearing for myself, all the work cost me 100 euros, but it would not be good for daily car.
    how did you make yours?
    I want one that is stiffer than the OEM

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    a new bearing was 'installed' in the basically original bracked with a very stiff rubber surrounded (similar to polyurethane, but way stiffer). The rubber part was machined to be able to install bearing and then beck to the bracket, which was modified sligtly.

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    I also renewed my centre bearing using the urethane method - I simply cleaned the rubber surfaces of the bearing and packed both sides with urethane. It has worked very well and this method costs almost nothing. As long as you have a bearing and the metal surround of the original setup you can use urethane to make a rubber surround from scratch. It is much stiffer than the original - without being completely rigid...

    You could simply get the original surround and place it flat on a bench with the rubber removed - then put the new bearing centered in the middle of the surround and fill with gap with urethane.
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    Jim ,which grade of urethane did you use?

    Some good info on rubber compounds here:

    http://www.rubbermoldcompounds.com/liquidrubber.htm

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    Wrinx, it was a Wurth black polyurethane product that is used to stick car windshields to metal frames. It squeezes in from a tube but cures much stiffer than rubber.

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    Looks like a supplier in Germany is supplying the part for €135 + postage. Although I've always found German suppliers very reluctant to ship outside of Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnielsen View Post
    Wrinx, it was a Wurth black polyurethane product that is used to stick car windshields to metal frames. It squeezes in from a tube but cures much stiffer than rubber.
    Thanks Jim, worth remembering for engine mounts etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Webb View Post
    Looks like a supplier in Germany is supplying the part for ?135 + postage. Although I've always found German suppliers very reluctant to ship outside of Germany.

    Centre support bearing
    Bielstein is a reliable supplier, I bought a few bits from them, they ship anywehre in Europe (at least). And they do reply to emails so you can contact them and by from them directly, not through ebay junk .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindus View Post
    Bielstein is a reliable supplier, I bought a few bits from them, they ship anywehre in Europe (at least). And they do reply to emails so you can contact them and by from them directly, not through ebay junk .
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lager-Kardan...#ht_500wt_1156

    found it on ebay
    108 eur and ships internationally
    so if anyone is interested.

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    My middle bearing support has cracked all the way around and has a fair amount of movement in it

    New are still available - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1310074065...84.m1423.l2649

    but I like the thought (cost!) of a DIY repair...any recommendations on urethane, particularly the Wurth stuff recommended by Jim?

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    How about this stuff? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wurth-Bond...item20bc32b295

    Or, good old Sikaflex...got some of that in the garage!?

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    More recent listing, in case the vendor has more in stock: http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Lager-Kardanw.../361849755871?

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    I think I will be going the DIY repair route with urethane. Thanks for digging up the thread!

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    Yup, I'll be doing the same

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    I dare say that if people haven't already done this, then they are going to be doing it sometime soon. After all, all the cars are going to be at least 20 years old now!!!
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