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    Default Ebay manifolds

    Who has one...did you have any problems fitting it?

    Mine is turning into a real pain!

    I think the pipe nearest the head may be too near, which means I can't get a spanner in to one of the nuts, and another is very difficult.

    Also finding some of the holes don't line up very well...is it just mine?

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    Mine was alright. Fits great.

    No idea about the spare second one, as it is just that, spare.

    I do believe you bought from the same seller i did?

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    I have to fit mine soon wrinx, um.. what about a few pics of the actual problem so I can see if mine has the same issues?

    Cheers, jim.

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    I obtained this ebay manifold for modelling for my own and i must say that the work is half done on it.

    The pipes are to close so it will heat the cylinder head even more!There is no place for heatwrapping and the end parts to the turbo flange is made catastrophical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnielsen View Post
    I have to fit mine soon wrinx, um.. what about a few pics of the actual problem so I can see if mine has the same issues?

    Cheers, jim.
    Basically, the second pipe goes too close to the head (as AXA says) and this means you can't swing a spanner for the second and third nuts on the top row. Then the second and third on the bottom row are also hard to get to and the hole seems to be slightly out with the gasket so I'm struggling to get bolts in.

    Oh yeah, forgot to say, you'll need to pull out the top studs as they're way to long. I thought bolts would do the job but it's far too much hassle...so will be taking it off again and putting home made studs in

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    yet another thing for me to look forwards to then....

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    Forgot to mention...I also had to file off the corner of the front right rocker bolt area as it was touching the pipes! Reckon I must have taken about 5mm off with a rasp...and it's still damn close, almost touching, when tightened up

    Really looks like the welder didn;t put the pipe in the right place, meaning it leans toward the engine a few millimetres too much.

    Going to crank up the lathe and make some 8mm studs tonight hopefully

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
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    tut tut, EvoDelta will not like this!

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    Doh....camcover

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaJack View Post
    tut tut, EvoDelta will not like this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaJack View Post
    tut tut, EvoDelta will not like this!

    Oi, are you pinching my job Jack!



    Well to be fair you can't expect a cheap manifold from Ebay to be much good, although the difficulty in tightening the nuts is a problem with most tubular manifolds, I've been removing and refitting an Evocars manifold over the last couple of days*, you've got to have a lot of patience and a few special tools to do it. You can make some of them your own from some cheap or mediocre spanners: Saw them off to shorten them, bend them to get around the edge of the cam cover and thin them down to fit into thin gaps etc. Unless you want to splash out on some nice crows feet, flex-head ratchet rings or stubbys etc.

    I'm jealous of a man with a lathe Wrinky but you can buy SS threaded bar cheaply enough and cut your own off to length to save yourself a job maybe.

    Make sure you elongate the holes in the head flange so it has plenty of room to expand, this is very important to help prevent it cracking.


    *I don't mean it took me a couple of days just to take it off and put it back on again.

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    I did think of just using allthread but it wouldn't have the untapped portion to prevent the stud screwing all the way in.

    Next thought was to knock some up on the lathe (I have three by the way!).

    But then I searched ebay and found a packet for less than a tenner, so not worth the aggro!

    I'll definitely be bending spanners to suit or making a tool to allow easier fitment, just a PITA

    Another thought, is it a bad idea to double gasket the exhaust manifold?

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    3 lathes? Triple jealousy!

    I have used the double gasket method with two Spesso gaskets and yes it works fine.

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    was this for the purpose of increased clearance between the engine and the manifold?

    jimn~

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    That's the reason for me...might just get anout 1.5-2mm which will hopefully allow a spanner to be wielded more effectively

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    Hi
    I have put it in my car 8 months ago
    the good thing is that I put it when the engine was out of the car
    but and in this case I use some special tools like evodelta say .
    I open all the holes to 10mm because they don't line and thats it.
    The one pipe is very close to the rocket arm cover thats true
    I put an exhaust casket from getze this one have an aluminum expansion that go between the pipe and the cover I don't find any problem running it so long
    the problem is to the bonnets heat protection this can be on fire but don't worry there is a bad smell
    before the fire
    im going down to the car to take some photos

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    here is the photos

    you must protect from the heat the wires that is over the refrigarator
    you can move them at the front
    and the wires that goes to fan
    that why i put the aluminion cover in front
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    There is definitely a difference in the way the pipes fall. If you look to the right hand side in na15575's pictures, where the camcover bolts sticks out, there is loads of clearance. Now look at mine below, and remember I've files loads of the corner already AND this is double gasketed!!!



    I also had to open up the last two holes to the left by 1mm to allow fitment. There's ajust about enough room to put some 18g stainless between the head and the manifold...which I'll be doing

    Are you serious about the fire risk, did it happen to you?

    I'm really glad I fitted a fan override switch, it can be used to cool the manifold down after stopping!!!

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    FIRE! ok, thats scared me enough! I am going to take my manifold here...

    http://www.jet-hot.com.au/advantages.htm#Performance

    its not too far from my house and have it coated to reduce the heat output!


    thanks for posting those great photos. I will have my head back at the end of this week so i will do a trial fit and any adjustment tweaking before I get it coated...

    jimn~

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    Been worrying about this now...where can I get some decent flame retardent material to stick on the underside of the bonnet

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    None of you tried to heat wrap it?
    I just bought one that can withstand 1600 degree celsius intermit and 1000 constant just for that.This type of header radiate even more heat then the original one so its almost a must some heat protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
    Been worrying about this now...where can I get some decent flame retardent material to stick on the underside of the bonnet

    wrinx
    mine start to burn the bonnets heat protection but dont wory it is slow burn material

    you can find that you want to the shops that have burners for the house.
    it is an aluminioum tape

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    Quote Originally Posted by axaQ42 View Post
    None of you tried to heat wrap it?
    I just bought one that can withstand 1600 degree celsius intermit and 1000 constant just for that.This type of header radiate even more heat then the original one so its almost a must some heat protection.
    have you got any photos ?

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    take care of this!!!
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    Yes, I had problems with the wiring there a while ago...but I still have the original cover for the fan motor which just covers the connection too

    Just remembered I bought a plumbers fire mat to go between the manifold and head...but as it won't fit there any more it'll go on the bonnet!!!!

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