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    Default Unidiag on a Q4

    I downloaded this software ages ago to go with the 156 JTD as it's not covered by other stuff that's around. Has anyone tried it on a Q4...does it work?

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    On this side of the pond there is a enthousiast who wrote his own diagnostic software. He has no file to diagnose the Q4 yet.
    Don't know if we're talking about the same software?

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    The main guy is Sander by the looks of it...

    http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/UniDiag/

    One of the files is called Fiat/lancia_16_

    Perhaps works the same??? I need to post on the newsgroup but it's a scary place, full of electronic chat I know nothing about!

    I don't yet know where the diagnostic port is on a Q4

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    Just checked the file, nothing to do with early Fiat/Lancia cars...Delta is 1998.

    I can see me getting very confused...!

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    The Second gen Deltas still used the Lampredi engine so could still be relevant. As to a diag port on in/on the Q4, no idea!
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    How much diffrent is it from the coupe 16vt ECU i know begbie, sell he's own diag. to the coupe.

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    from the fccuk.org

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    Interesting, I searched on there earlier and couldn't find any mention of Unidiag

    I've asked a few questions on the Yahoo Group so we'll see what happens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
    The main guy is Sander by the looks of it...
    That's the guy
    unfortunately the Q4 is not supported.

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    Didn't think so, that's a real shame

    Still need to get it working for the Spider and JTD

    Can't see the Matta being supported either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kepsus View Post
    How much diffrent is it from the coupe 16vt ECU i know begbie, sell he's own diag. to the coupe.
    I've heard of the Widgets, sold by Barnacle...what's Begbie's called?

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    See my reply there wrinx. Maybe in the future we can set up a session with Sander to do some live testing/diagnostics on the software with a Q4. I think that might help speed up development of the Magneti Marelli protocols for unidiag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhizzMan View Post
    Maybe in the future we can set up a session with Sander to do some live testing/diagnostics on the software with a Q4. I think that might help speed up development of the Magneti Marelli protocols for unidiag.
    I already volunteerd for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
    I've heard of the Widgets, sold by Barnacle...what's Begbie's called?

    wrinx
    Widgets might be the way for Q4s for now....

    http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthread...479#Post689479

    http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthread...717467&fpart=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhizzMan View Post
    See my reply there wrinx.
    Can't see it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinx View Post
    Acces denied, need to be logged in to view the posts....

    But here is something visible:
    http://www.nailed-barnacle.co.uk/coupe/emu.html
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    Sorry didn't realise...

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    How much are they actualy?
    That is when he still makes them.

    If cheap enough, maybe have a bunch made with Q4 logo instead of the fiat coupe screen?
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    ?120 without the Fiat Coupe heater shaped carbon plate, or ?130 with....this includes post to UK and Europe.

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    Mmm it's limited. You can do a readout, then use the documentation to see what it means. No resetting faults or anything. I guess something like this will be the first step to get it running in UniDiag as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhizzMan View Post
    No resetting faults or anything.
    That's right, it's really just a monitor and fault code reader.

    Your post on the Yahoo Group has just appeared, I think I'll wait a while and see what Sanders comes up with...might also have to buy his leads now!

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    There is no 're-setting of faults' on the Ecu is there? Only that of unplugging it, turning the key or disconnecting the battery......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evodelta View Post
    There is no 're-setting of faults' on the Ecu is there? Only that of unplugging it, turning the key or disconnecting the battery......

    Yes as I know the p8 ecu off marrelli has no re-setting of faults
    And hasn’t got a memory for faults
    This is the massage that gives you the Alfa fiat "examiner" when you try to reset or read the faults

    That’s why Widgets, sold by Barnacle is the most useful tool
    You can see the fault when it happens
    Many times you have fault and the light on dash isn’t red or you can’t see it because it is a very short flash
    (Knock sensor, λ etc)
    When you read a fault with the diagnostic this is a present fault
    And it is still exist as fault
    When you fix it then it’s gone
    So you are not going to need any special diagnostic equip.
    Because you cant use them.
    Widgets is the only tool that can help us because it stores the fault and display it
    You have it always on monitor the ecu
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    The Widgets is the best tool I have see
    I try to construct it but I haven’t found the monitor
    You can only buy it from Vikay min order 50 pieces
    Barnacle as I know he has now produced the mkII version
    With bigger monitor and most easy to find it
    I don’t know if Barnacle wants to produce it for the Q4
    Because it is not tried in a Q4 the ecus is the same with coupe 16v
    But maybe has a little different.
    For example different knock sensor. And this is more jobs for him
    I thing it worth to ask from Barnacle to produce it for Q4
    Maybe he accept if we are many that want it

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    It would certainly be useful....

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