FMIC's

[jimnielsen]

What do you guys think of this style of intercooler with both inlet and outlet on the same side - this would be easier to implement on a q4?




http://justjap.com/store/product.php...cat=298&page=1


jimn~

[axaQ42]

I have the same idea for some time and the only problem i see is that the intake pipe would heat the other pipe so you would gain some temperature there.But i thought that you could just wrap it in heat wrap and this problem is gone.

With such an IC you can make a very short pipeline so there would be no more lag then on the original.

[Evodelta]

Leave it on the shelf, it is the worst type of intercooler on the entire planet.

The Fiat Coupe guys used to fit a similar type (think it was Proalloy?) The ones that escaped being weighed in for scrap can be picked up for about 10 pence.

[wrinx]

I thought it was better to have straight through flow, with the veins going with the direction of airflow?

But I know bugger all about ICs

wrinx

[wrinx]

Like this....

http://justjap.com/store/product.php...cat=298&page=1

wrinx

[#84]

I totaly agree with Evodelta. If you find a report of pressure drop over IC and cooling efficiency you wouldn't consider the item if you have other alternatives.

[jimnielsen]

ok then :0 ...

can anyone post a link to a 'more suitable' FMIC that has some specs so that I can see if I can obtain a similar unit here.

thanks, jimn~

[Evodelta]

I totaly agree with Evodelta. If you find a report of pressure drop over IC and cooling efficiency you wouldn't consider the item if you have other alternatives.

Your right about the pressure drop, but this thing will cool the air well, the problem will be not actually being able to fit the air that you need through it!
It is called a 'Double pass' design and is used for cooling liquid, never air.

Anyone have the dimensions of the original cooler? A labelled pic is needed with thickness, width and length of tube that the charge air goes through.

[Evodelta]

ok then :0 ...

can anyone post a link to a 'more suitable' FMIC that has some specs so that I can see if I can obtain a similar unit here.

thanks, jimn~

What dimensions can you fit in? Where do the inlet/outlets need to be? What BHP are you headed for?

Do I have to guess?

When trying to find out what exactly you can fit in you have to make a mock up first to check, I made a wooden box with inlet and outlet pipes on (made from aerosol caps!) and slotted it in before ordering.

[jimnielsen]

I'm relatively new to turbo cars - and I certainly haven't considered all the issues yet with regards to FMIC's. I will have a closer look at the pictures on this site to see what is achievable without having to cut out too much of the front of the car. But the max HP I am aiming for is about 350 - but this will have to take place over time.

[axaQ42]

Hi!

Ok i have the same problem to decide for a good FMIC.I am aiming also around 350(400 max!!) i would mount it like Gary did(except i wouldn t cut the crossmember)


I would go from one of this selection:
http://shop.wiltec.info/index.php/ca...ftkuehler.html

So i need a few advices and i would be very thankful

Evodelta?Anybody?

[Juan AR155Q4]

Why no fitting a water-cooler?

[Evodelta]

No-one answered my last questions:

Anyone have the dimensions of the original cooler? A labelled pic is needed with thickness, width and length of tube that the charge air goes through.

What power are you headed for?

What size hole do you have to play with?

The first question is the most important one I need to start a discussion, the second two not so much. It takes more than one person to hold a debate and some hard facts to kick off a tutorial. Come on guys, everyone is welcome to give comments!

[Brul(tm)]

[I]Anyone have the dimensions of the original cooler?

I have one in the attick. I'll try to take a few pictures and get the meassurement for you tonight.

Greetings,
Marc

[Juan AR155Q4]

From another topic:

The core of the IC is 310x205mm.
I can measure the full shape, including plastic end caps, if you need?
wrinx

Evodelta,
What do you think about using a water-cooler?

[Evodelta]

This is what I am after, T= Thickness L = Length W = Width:

Water coolers? Be patient, we will discuss.

[Q4Jan]

This is what I am after, T= Thickness L = Length W = Width:

Water coolers? Be patient, we will discuss.

Patient, patient, I'll be a sick patient hurry!

[Juan AR155Q4]

The core of the IC is 310x205mm.
I can measure the full shape, including plastic end caps, if you need?
wrinx

65mm, will measure the whole thing if anyone needs it.
wrinx

Collected from other posts.

[Evodelta]

Well we got the thickness as 65mm, which is the length and width?

You guys are hard work......

C'mon Wrinky, pull yer finger out yer ass.

[wrinx]

Oi...I'm havin' me dinner

The core is 310 wide and 205 high...do you want the plastic bits too?

wrinx

[Juan AR155Q4]

310x205, posted twice before.
We?re hard but you?re blind

[Evodelta]

Just had mine, do you want a chip? (Mcains, not Evocars).

Thanks for the info, so if you measured one of the plastic end tanks it would be 65 x 310? And the charge air (from the turbo) travelling through the IC has to go 205mm right?

[Evodelta]

310x205, posted twice before.
We?re hard but you?re blind

This is the whole point - we need to be sure which is which, this is important.

[wrinx]

Just had mine, do you want a chip? (Mcains, not Evocars).

Thanks for the info, so if you measured one of the plastic end tanks it would be 65 x 310? And the charge air (from the turbo) travelling through the IC has to go 205mm right?

No, the cooler core is 310x205x65...the plastic ends are on top of that.

I'll go measure it now....never mind letting the dinner go down, I'll get indigestion just for you

wrinx

[Evodelta]

No, I don't need the plastic end tanks, I'm just trying to confirm you have the core dims the right way around, what I mean is where they clip onto the core they will measure 65 x 310 ? I think they do.