alfa Romeo 155 Q4 :: 1993 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4

[Norling]

1993 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4 (2012-11-21 19:57:30)

[David ARTC-215]

Good wheels!

[Norling]

Engine from the other Q4 I have will be put in this one during winter 2013/2014
It is built by a well known enginebuilder here in Sweden and my spec was max 7500rpm and 550bhp.

[Norling]

Steeringrack swithed with one from 155 -96.
I got this front 30mm ARB but it has not as significant bend in the center as the stock, is it for the FWD or does the frame need some modifications?

[Norling]

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155461This is how it looks like in differens
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155461

[Norling]

images of the engine, almost ready, some electric still left.
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155522



http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155513

[Norling]

First startup with the "new" engine managed by VEMS. wasnt able to drive it that much because after installing the short shift kit is first gear always in position, I assume we need to adjust the wires. The leaks are fixed and only gearbox error and oilleak at front left driveshaft.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ptfyfXDNC0

[Norling]

This engine comes from the other 155 Q4 with frame chassi we are building. We have put the engine in this car and sold the drivetrain from Golf syncro. The plan is to install engine and drivetrain from v6 Q4 from a Brera or 159Q4.

Engine setup:
forged pistons and conrods, adjustable wheel for cambelt, 25mm cambelt, removed balance shafts, turbo Garret GT35BB with external WG, custom inlet manifold, stainless steel manifold, 1000cc injectors, VEMS management system.
We assume we will get around 550hp in the engine.

[Kai Q4]

Sounds like a great plan. Will this be street legal?

[Norling]

We hope but I doumbt it. There is still the issue with small brakes to solve.

[Norling]

First run after fixing the error with the gearbox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVylPuMzIY

[Norling]

Any suggestions on harder springs for the FK coilover, its to soft with the original ones?!

[thesameday]

So real beauties in here...

[Norling]

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[Norling]

Intercooler fitment (http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155492)

pipeline from turbo to inlet manifold (http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155504)

manifold (http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155519)

new painted rear bumper (http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155700)

engine bay (http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155525)

[Norling]

Any experience of the D2 coilover for trackdays?
Witch springrate is prefered, I will use it only for trackdays?!

http://www.d2racing.co.uk/new/products.php?prod=7

[Kai Q4]

They are pretty good, because we do not have a lot of options? I have a street version, should have been little stiffer springs for the trackday.

[Norling]

Thanks. Then I go for D2 with 180nm in front and 120nm in back. just ARB and bigger brakes left

[Norling]

So during the summer and autumn has their been none or almost none activity in the garage. We made a run in the dyno but oil was comming throu the turbo when getting boost. We have found the problem and solved it but lack of inspiration made in a long journey. The Garret GT35bb who is both wather- and oil-cooled in extremely sensitive if the oil is not evacuated from the turbo oilreturn, if there is any backpressure at all does it leak out and futher comes in the intake air. We have mounted a pump after the oil outlet on the turbo and pump it futher into the Engine again. We tried to connect the oil i the oilpan but it become worse. Now it runs again and we have changed to E85= 85% ethanol and 15% gas. Next thing is to find what is needed to fit pushing in stead of pulling clutch beacuse we have bought a Tilton 2 disc clutch. Does anyone have any good suggestions, Scara73?

[Norling]

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155897&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery.php?g2_itemId=155889

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155894&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7


http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155485&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155482&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

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[Norling]

The tight 90 degrees bend of the elbow for the oil return from the turbo that was the problem

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155888&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

The small 2dl container in witch the oil Drains into from the turbo.

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155873&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

the Electric oil/diesel pump witch pumps the oil back into the Engine
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155870&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

The front with new radiator witch was also damage after me putting the weld into it :)
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155879&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

The Engine from above
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155876&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

We have now beendriving the car for 140km and are ready for dyno again
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155885&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

parts for pulling clutch needed for the Tilton 2 disc, thats what is lets so i need advices.

Also the oilpump upgrade at scara73, does anyone have any experience, good or bad?

[Norling]

Pipes
http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155515&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155518&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=155512&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=14dcc02279ac83996e52a7645bfabee7

[Norling]

second run spring this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVylPuMzIY

[AlfaJack]

Wow, look at that floor and boot - no rust.

Great work going on there!

[Norling]

True, only some small rust under the side morrors on both doors, im as confused as you, its an alfa, their must be rust :)
I havent used it for 12 years, I Think thats the reason never the less there is still rust behind the mirrors...damn alfa

[Norling]

ordered parts for mounting 2 disc Tilton clutch from scara73, some issues with sending but I hope he will send it 3 weeks after order alteast :). Didnt order gears for oilpump due that I didnt know if good or not

[Norling]

upgrade of front and rear brakes, any suggstions?

[wrinx]

Do you have a budget in mind?

Very cheap is a pad upgrade; cheap is the 166 Brembo conversion (which is very good) and then there's the other end of the spectrum for eight pot calipers etc.

wrinx

[Norling]

Do you have a budget in mind?

Very cheap is a pad upgrade; cheap is the 166 Brembo conversion (which is very good) and then there's the other end of the spectrum for eight pot calipers etc.

wrinx'

:) Right, If I got a pile of money I wouldnt be struggeling with an old alfa giving me a hardtime everytime I solve a problem Another appear ;)
calipers from 166 with 330mm disc, thats a good start, and for the rear?

My budget is 1500 euro for front and back.

I have tried to only install huge Tarox 6 pot calipers with 330mm discs in front and stock at rear on a GTV916 and that was horrible, no control of the back end while braking.

[Norling]

Q: How to connect and install original rev with VEMS 3.4?

The Engine is running nicely on E85 but how does original revcounter work, we are unable to get the signals right?

Answer:
BC36 pin 31, P259 push, 480ohm, not BC18 pin 4 as we been told :(

[Norling]

Saw some pictures some time ago on the front subframe but with wishbones fitted with uniballs, does anyone have pictures of it?

[elCrillo]

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