which one to buy????

[Scugog]

Two links for the masses, first and only ones in canada
Im sure. Alfa left here in 1995 with a 164 and a spider only cars available from the lineup, what does everybody think??
Any input from here would b appreciated because this website is the only thing i have being here in ontario canada

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-Alfa-Romeo-155-6cyl-5sp-FACTORY-WIDE-BODY-W0QQAdIdZ398801183


http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-ALFA-ROMEO-155-Q4-PERMANENT-AWD-TURBO-MANUAL-ULTRA-RARE-W0QQAdIdZ408699741

[wrinx]

Hi, they both look to be in excellent condition, similar mileage and price too.

Assuming they're both as good as they look it's really down to which you prefer to drive, because they're totally different!

You've already got a V6 in the 164 so the Q4 might appeal and is ultimately the better car, but they can be hard work to drive and maintain.

The V6 will be easy to drive and maintain but not as quick or tunable as the Q4.

Personally, having owned both, I'd go for the Q4.

wrinx

[Brul(tm)]

http://www.jointjedraaien.nl/wietforum/images/smilies/whs.gif

Though a standard car isn't that fun to drive, you'll need at least a squadra chip or something similar. Parts will be more difficult to get a hold on.

I would prefer the Q4, I like to drive :driving-014:

[Steve Webb]

Hi, I guess parts for any 155 are going to have to be imported to Canada, so don't worry about availability it'll be pretty much the same for both.

As you've already had a 3.0L V6 75/Milano the 155 V6 will never live up to that, so go for the Q4.

Just make sure you get a good test drive and are allowed to go somewhere where you can open the car up, make sure it pulls well, especially from 3-3.5k rpm.

[markgq4]

even though the v6 is the better colour and has a slightly nicer interior, i would still choose the Q4 more power, more torque, more tuneable and better handling ...

[Steve Webb]

has a slightly nicer interior

Both cars have a better/nicer interior than most of the European cars.

Do you know where these were imported from?

[Scugog]

Both of these cars were imported from japan, v6 looks nicer however those decals gotta go imo, also i cant find any info on a 96 q4, are the badges in the right spot on boot lid??, and forgive the newbie question, is this Q4 a wb or a skinny, should b a wb no just by production date or?? Almost wondering if this car has been made for importing?, not sure of the integrity of the importer, call me skeptical.......almost looks to good to b true!!
hes at 12900
Thanks everybody for the input, hopefully ill get down for a test drive soon, although the longer i procrastanate, the asking price keeps falling, the q was originally listed. For 15500 and now 12900, shootin for 10grand but i bet if i wait for that ,this car will belong to someone else!!

[Scugog]

Oh well,its a different story now, 2.5 v6 wb sold today, guess that makes my decision easier!!

[Brul(tm)]

The Q4 is a so called wide body ;)

Make an appointment and take the car for a good test drive.
Listen to the engine, take a good look at the temperatures and oil pressure.
Standard Q4 should have a good kick around the 3500RPM like Steve already mentioned.

[Steve Webb]

are the badges in the right spot on boot lid??, and forgive the newbie question, is this Q4 a wb or a skinny, should b a wb no just by production date or?? Almost wondering if this car has been made for importing?, not sure of the integrity of the importer, call me skeptical.......almost looks to good to b true!!


With regards to the badges, with the European cars the badges were originally at the top of the bootlid as they are in that picture, however with the introduction of the widebodied cars (95 onwards) the badges moved down to straddle the bottom of the boot, like this:


http://www.berlinasportivo.com/marquespec/Alfa/Q4register/Fergus/fLHrear.JPG

Not sure if this was the same with the Japanese cars as there are lots of differences with them.

And yes whether the car is a skinny or widebody should be down to when it was made. The changeover date is 1995, before and its a skinny, 95 and after its a wide-body.

The car in the link is a wide-body, easiest way to spot is the shape of the front indicator repeater, skinnies have a rectangular shaped one, wide-bodies have a lozenge shaped one.

Is there anything else that makes you think the car is dodgy? The Japanese market has always attracted oddities from the Fiat group.

Oh and shouldn't you be calling it the trunk lid, not boot-lid?

[Scugog]

Thanks guys, good info, hopefully ill b able to get a test drive next week sometime, to busy busy busy.in regards to boot lid, trunk lid, yes trunk lid works here in canada but
Since im the only one ,i figured boot lid would make more sense to everybody here!!lol
Once again thanks everyone, and ill will let the forum know how the car drivesafter testing!

[Varypodaros]

I like the v6's body kit, but I would definitely go for the Q4.

[Alfista155]

Both cars are nice to have.. depends on what your looking for. reliability + sound or speed + traction. both are expensive in servicing. my opinion is that both cars are a bit higly priced if you compare with our prices in Switzerland..

[Steve Webb]

my opinion is that both cars are a bit higly priced if you compare with our prices in Switzerland..

Yes, but the cars are in Canada, and if you are in Canada and want a 155 you are going to have to import it yourself (not sure how hard that is) or buy one of the very few that are already there.
Total sellers market really.

[Steve Webb]

So did you manage to get and test drive the car?

[Scugog]

Wow!! I said next week some time!!!what i really meant was next ??? ive been terribly busy i cant believe its a month already!!bad news:havent been yet. good news:both cars r still there and its gonna start snowing anytime here. Should i wait and make him squirm some of the winter?cuz if he had it all summer and no one pounced,who will b lookin now??besides me of course!!is this a buyers market now?? if i could fjgure out how to get the v6 body kit on the Q and pay less than hes asking??I may b pushin now!!regardless, i still plan on getting down there for the test drive, sooner thsn later and whether ill play the ,not interested card ,we will have to see. Keep u posted,

Few more pics here

http://www.rightdrive.ca/galleries

[AlfaJack]

They have a nice Evo II Integrale too :cool:

[Steve Webb]

Well from the plates the car looks like a Japanese import, so what I would do would be to look at Q4 prices in Japan, then take a look at shipping costs, and the costs involved in registering the car.
Stick all that together, and make an offer somewhere between that price and the price he is advertising at.
If the car has been there for a while, the dealer might just be glad to get it off his books.

Make a cheeky offer, the worst he can do is say no.

[Brul(tm)]

The V6 is also on Ebay (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Other-155-/181011628352?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a25224140) at the moment, with a reserve.

This might change your approach on this 155.

[AlfaJack]

That looks great! £7300 - strong money but that is good for us :)

[Steve Webb]

What are the rules for importing and registering a car in Canada? Does it need to be over a certain age to be exempt from all the red tape?