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hi guys, it's time for rebuild my engine, so i would like to share with you my progress. i hope the photos will be fine because i took them with my mobile.
day 1. little progress, not so many things. it is not so easy to take the engine out and strip it
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the engine is already out
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and the car looks like this...
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parts everywhere
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at the same time some modifycation to my new Kappa inlet manifold
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i decide to make it shorter about 60mm and of course porting and polishing
thank you, i hope tomorrow i will have more progress.
good night to all
That's not bad for a day work ;)
Looks like you have plenty of room to work in :)
Looking forward to see this project going forward.
The car is at my mechanics garage. We were 3 people so that's why we did a lot of work in one day. I hope everything will go well. In my progress I want to change
Forged pistons
Light flywheel
Clutch
Head gasket
Arp head bolts
And I will remove completely the balance shafts. I have already buy a removal kit
how much did it costed and where to buy it?
Most parts I bought them from www.scara73.it about what part you mean? I guess about balance shafts removal kit. I bought it 135 euros but the kit didn't include 2 more taps that I made them here in Greece and cost 25 euros. I will post photos tomorrow
Look forward to seeing this happen..
Good luck with your project!
it was a long day today
first of all we finished the inlet manifold. after that we will paint it completely
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we take out the pistons and all inside the engine
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i was surprised when i saw these
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very good condition in case of 345.000 km
we sent already the block engine for grinding and we start to port and polishing the head
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that's for today. a lot of work but i hope the results will be good enough
Steve Webb
20-01-12, 19:14
at the same time some modifycation to my new Kappa inlet manifold
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/rebuild/af51dc0e.jpg
I see health and safety rules haven't reached Greece yet. There are at least 3 in that pic.
Seriously though, looks like you are well on the way with things.
Just a question, what is the reason for shortening the Kappa inlet? Is it just to make it fit a little better?
There are at least 3 in that pic.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OA4n5rNZH2s/ThhHEh7J9fI/AAAAAAAAAC8/Jva59FOb8Bo/s1600/m1eyn2lwmlqi.jpg
;)
Safety isn't always the first thing to be thinking of. I am also skipping this a lot..... :blush:
Yes you are right about safety rules :) I make the manifold shorter for being quicker in respond. But I think maybe I will loose some torque at low rpm.
I also show a damaged Valve rubber but anyway I have a new set to replace. Also some valves needs to be rubbed. That's why some loosen compression in the cylinder.
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i was surprised when i saw these
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Head gasket?
wrinx
My head gasket was in good condition too. Now I have a spesso with steel fire rings
Steve Webb
21-01-12, 11:25
Was that an inlet or exhaust valve? Looks like it wasn't seating at all well.
This was an exhaust valve. You are right. I had 3 valves that didn't seat well. No everything is ok
a little progress today too. the engine block and the head came from griding
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it is time to remove the balance shafts, and this is the removal kit
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it was a quite easy job i can say
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first of all we need to tap the oil conductors that drives the oil to the balance shafts
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and the second one
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after that i had to tap tha balance shaft's hole
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the other side on monday after painting the engine block. thanks for your patience
i was a little busy these days, so now i will share with you some last fotos
the engine ready to be fitted
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new coilover by XYZ with adjustment top mount
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and this is almost ready
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i have no other fotos with everything complete in the engine area but i will put some these days and i post
thank you for your patient my friends
the only thing for finishing the engine rebuild is the camshafts. i wish until summer i can buy a pair of C&B and i will start my next project with the body kit. i imagine it already wider like zagato....!!!! aaawww.....my sweet dreams
Steve Webb
03-02-12, 19:25
Are the plugs that are used to block off the balance shaft oil-ways thread-locked in?
Looking very nice by the way, how much power are you looking for when its all back together?
Juan AR155Q4
03-02-12, 19:34
That was quick!!!
I thing we have a record for a Q4's engine rebuild.
Are the plugs that are used to block off the balance shaft oil-ways thread-locked in?
Looking very nice by the way, how much power are you looking for when its all back together?
The balance shafts removal kit is working. I didn't see more oil pressure but the good point is that the oil pressure is ok. 7 bar in the morning when the oil is cold and 3 bar at idle when the oil is warm. I don't know about the power but I am planing to boost the turbo 1.6 bar and 2,2 bar with methanol on track days. I hope to peak 50kg of torque and 370-380 hp. In full boost I remain more but the dyne will show the truth.
That was quick!!!
I thing we have a record for a Q4's engine rebuild.
That was because I bought all parts before the rebuild. We were 3 people working on the engine. We spent 1 week and the most difficult was to relocate things like fuel pressure regulator, idle valve and some cables. The result is great by the way. Now I have to drive 1000 km in normal condition with low boost and after that to remap the ecu
Nice work there and quick rebuild. Mey i ask how much did the XYZ coilovers kit costed you?
regards coly
Nice work there and quick rebuild. Mey i ask how much did the XYZ coilovers kit costed you?
regards coly
Here in Greece XYZ set costs about 1200 euro for front and rear axel
Steve Webb
04-02-12, 08:18
The balance shafts removal kit is working. I didn't see more oil pressure but the good point is that the oil pressure is ok. 7 bar in the morning when the oil is cold and 3 bar at idle when the oil is warm. I don't know about the power but I am planing to boost the turbo 1.6 bar and 2,2 bar with methanol on track days. I hope to peak 50kg of torque and 370-380 hp. In full boost I remain more but the dyne will show the truth.
Sounds like the oil pressure is pretty good, what I meant was did you use something like this:
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when you put the plugs in. So there is no chance that they will move. The ones near the crank could cause a lot of damage if they came loose.
Yes I did Steve. Even I didn't use there where no problem but I use it for being sure 1000%
This is the end
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Well, now after the first 1500 km of normal driving ready for bigger injectors.
I bought siemens Deka 660
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After remmaping with new injectors I boost the turbo to 1.6- 1.7 bar because I was curious. Hehe!!! The results amazing! Now I need a bigger front mount Intercooler and already waiting my order of AEM water- methanol injection system for chemical Intercooler and high octane (130- 135 octane)
Steve Webb
07-04-12, 07:07
The results amazing! Now I need a bigger front mount Intercooler and already waiting my order of AEM water- methanol injection system for chemical Intercooler and high octane (130- 135 octane)
Sounds like someone is getting addicted to big power outputs.
i never thought that but i think now i am addicted....hahaha, this was for "test" i am running 1.5 bar boost and it is like driving another car... when i tried 1.7 bar i thought the engine it was ready to spin the wheels even in 3rd gear. too much power that i never will learn to drive so fast even in trackday. i just know that i have a powerfull engine when i want it. i had open the exhaust throttle and when i passes a car in front of me, the people of the other car was scary....
What a grrrrrreat work, congrats. :thumbsup:
Btw...were the front damper's upper bolts long enough to easely mount the Momo strut bar? Tx
Cristian
Yes. The bar is from Alfa 156 with direct fitting. No modifications. Thank you for nice comment
Where you removed the balance shafts, do you not have the front idler bearing for the cambelt?
Yes, the cap from removal kit can handle the bearing that the cam belt passing from there
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As you can see I place the stock bearing to the new cap
well, the project didn't stop here, i recentrly sent my ecu to RP-LAB company. for those who don't know them they are self-called "marelli specialist" and they upgrade our stock ecu www.rp-lab.com for more info.
also i started a new project for wider body kit like TI-Z. i hope it will be nice
this was the first thought when i had in my hands deltona's front fenders
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after that we start working on this project
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and a complete fender is now ready in one piece
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Steve Webb
11-08-12, 07:06
That front wing looks great. Are they individually made or are you going to take a mold from them and have them made up in grp?
As you see Steve we made a mod here. We put the wide part of deltona to our stock fender and after that we make an one piece of fiber glass full fender. This fender is going to be fitted exactly as the stock one. Same Size just wider
well, the project didn't stop here, i recentrly sent my ecu to RP-LAB company. for those who don't know them they are self-called "marelli specialist" and they upgrade our stock ecu www.rp-lab.com for more info.
looks really interesting
please let us know when You will recieve back your ECU
what kind of modification did You chosed ?
regards
w
I have already my ecu back and already programmed. Now it is full programmable with real time adjustments. Plus antilag, launch control and one output ex for water- methanol injection. It has very many maps specially for safe the engine
Steve Webb
11-08-12, 12:21
As you see Steve we made a mod here. We put the wide part of deltona to our stock fender and after that we make an one piece of fiber glass full fender. This fender is going to be fitted exactly as the stock one. Same Size just wider
Are you going to be doing the same sort of thing at the rear as well?
How much wider are the fenders?
Yes, I will do same thing to the rear door and rear fender. The front fenders are 30mm wider than the stock fender. At the rear will be 15mm wider because I already have the wide body
peter holst
12-08-12, 07:05
As you see Steve we made a mod here. We put the wide part of deltona to our stock fender and after that we make an one piece of fiber glass full fender. This fender is going to be fitted exactly as the stock one. Same Size just wider
Great mot!
What kind of car is a deltona?
Is it possible to buy a set of fiberglass fenders from you?
I think he means Delta (integrale).
wrinx
Yes deltona I mean Integrale Evo2. Has a little difference from evo 1. At the back of the fender has a smal air duct. I am not the seller and I don't sell parts but when we finish I will tell the guys who made it to comunicate with Steve and to make a nice offer for berlinasportivo. I don't want to be in the middle because I don't want to make money for these things. Of course it will be the first kit for this car because I search a lot and I didn't find anywhere to buy it. These guys has very good prices and very good quality. Until then you can take a look here if you want www.dukesracing.gr
Ready for painting
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peter holst
12-08-12, 10:32
I can't wait to get my hands ón it. Great work!
Steve Webb
12-08-12, 11:16
when we finish I will tell the guys who made it to comunicate with Steve and to make a nice offer for berlinasportivo.
Cheers for that, sounds like it could be an interesting item.
ill be interested in group buy for these fenders if things get realized.
coly
Well I hope I will have a nice result when I will finish. Now I will start the rear half door and rear fender. The good point is that everything that these guys build, they build it on the car, so every part is direct replacement of the stock one
peter holst
12-08-12, 20:12
Put mé ón the list Steve :)
I've already put my eyes on one more 155Q4 (narrow this time). Those fenders would suit just nice...:tongue-007: I must be :loco:
Cheers,
Cris.
Ferrari rosso 300. Amazing colour
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Barely wait to see the result...these kind of fenders are simply great, who could not like'em?
fitting day
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Steve Webb
14-08-12, 18:49
Wow that looks great, you using wider spacers on the front wheels?
So when is the rest of the car being sprayed?
I made in my lathe 35mm alluminium spacers. Now we will build the rear wide parts and after that we will paint all the car. Now you can see clearly the difference of the stock colour and the new one
Working the rear parts
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peter holst
18-08-12, 18:43
Hurry up:)
very good job mpampis
are place some bigger pictures?
It is ready The Effigy of rear part
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Brilliant!
Are you planning on making these for sale?
wrinx
Not me but the guys they made them they planning to sell them. When we will finished you will learn because I thought it would be nice idea to make a special offer for berlinasportivo
alfa155chris
22-08-12, 11:29
Not me but the guys they made them they planning to sell them. When we will finished you will learn because I thought it would be nice idea to make a special offer for berlinasportivo
Will be waiting for the price for these
I won't be in the middle as for the sale guys. The only I will do is to tell them to talk with Steve and make a nice deal but they have very nice prices and amazing quality
I won't be in the middle as for the sale guys. The only I will do is to tell them to talk with Steve and make a nice deal but they have very nice prices and amazing quality
Are You planning to make also hood from fiber? (for weight reduction) ?
regards
WS
Yes. Hood and the rear tank that is very heavy
Right now
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peter holst
22-08-12, 17:24
By rear tank do you mean the trunk?
Sorry, yes I meant the trunk. It is very heavy
Steve Webb
22-08-12, 18:03
You've got widebodied rear wings on already haven't you?
The rear looks a lot more subtle than the front, is the standard rear bumper going to fit?
Yes Steve it was the wide body but the conversion kit will fit to all models because the rear parts will be all the rear door and all the rear fender like TI-Z
Steve Webb
22-08-12, 18:26
Ahh, I understand now, it fits the the part of the door and rear fender that is common to both the narrow and wide bodied cars.
Excellent!
Really looking forward to seeing the car when its finished and painted!
Believe my I'm looking forward to see it and drive it too.
Looks great and the colour is cool! Looking forward seeing it back together. And hoping You'd make the kit available for sale.
Yesterday' progress
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Steve Webb
24-08-12, 12:57
The rears extensions look much wider once they are on. Are they going to have the small vents at the rear? And is any metal from the rear wing\door going to have to be cut out?
The rear Extensions are 30mm wider, at the end it is not a vent, but the point witch the extensions will close to be in the same sitting as the stock. I think we will make some modification for not touching the tyre the metal door and wing.
The show must go on
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And now ready to make a complete fiber part
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Steve Webb
27-08-12, 18:34
Ahh, so they are going to be completely new wings. Is it also going to be a complete new door skin?
Yes Steve. This is going to be. A complete solution ready to fit. In the rear door the skin is going to be up to the window
CloverleafQ4
28-08-12, 02:35
wow! great job mpampis!
jimnielsen
12-09-12, 11:16
Great work!
Thank you guys. We hope this week we will have it ready for the road and we will have all parts
peter holst
12-09-12, 18:37
Can't wait to buy it:)
Did you make an alfa 155gta frontspoiler?
Not yet but we will build a complete gta front bumber
peter holst
12-09-12, 19:57
Perfect
Steve Webb
13-09-12, 17:44
Really looking forward for the next instalment, congratulations on all the work put into this.
great work.
thats going to be a superb Q4 when its finished ....
you make me not want to sell mine now !!! :s
Thank you all guys. Today I hope rear wing's molds and trunk's mold will be ready so we will start manufacture the first rear parts. Rear doors are getting ready for a full mold just to exist for later because still it is my daily car. Every door is about 35kg. Very heavy
Some last photos I have
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peter holst
21-09-12, 06:08
hurry up -I want that kit :)
It is difficult job because we did it from zero. The late is that we build molds from zero. Of we had ready molds now I would be on the road ;)
it is awesome my friend...good job very very good job..last point:)
Thank you very much. Good news by the way. Since yesterday rear wing's molds are ready. Today we will have the parts ready and we start to make mold for the trunk
Steve Webb
28-09-12, 20:00
Thank you very much. Good news by the way. Since yesterday rear wing's molds are ready. Today we will have the parts ready and we start to make mold for the trunk
Excellent work, any new pics?
Are you just making a standard GRP boot lid, or something else?
Tomorrow I will post the parts, sorry Steve what is boot lid? You mean about the trunk?
Steve Webb
29-09-12, 08:16
Hi, yep Trunk=Boot
Well the first parts are ready
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peter holst
29-09-12, 15:15
Looks Great!
Varypodaros
29-09-12, 19:42
Seems like you are going to have a visitor from the south one day, Mpampis...
You are welcome anytime dimitris
Alfa Patch
30-09-12, 18:27
Such a well done project.
Car looks awesome with no bonnet as well :)
Some progress
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Varypodaros
14-10-12, 12:44
Mpampis, why do you paint the parts before you install them to the car? won't you paint it all?
Steve Webb
14-10-12, 12:57
Looking awesome! Some really nice work gone into it so far.
looks amazing! thanks to you, the dreams of many 155's owners will be true! :thumbsup:
Thank you guys, Varypodaros yes. We paint the car as every part was out for modification and every part that is ready we paint it and install it
Parts that are in the last stage
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http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/7289EFF4-594C-42EF-94D8-24A43059DCD7-9252-000004F697720AA0.jpg
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Steve Webb
29-10-12, 21:31
Is the boot lid standard but just in GRP or is it modified at all? Can't tell from that angle.
This is the time we make the mould Steve. Today will have the inside too. It will be a "twin" of the oem one in GRP or Carbon. I didn't decide yet
peter holst
30-10-12, 07:32
hope it will be ready for sale before chrismas - would be a great gift for myself :)
Did you write a letter to Santa Clause? Haha. I hope you were a good boy this year :)
Steve Webb
30-10-12, 07:49
This is the time we make the mould Steve. Today will have the inside too. It will be a "twin" of the oem one in GRP or Carbon. I didn't decide yet
Ahh that explains the rough look of the edges it has at the moment.
Yes the mould it will be 3 parts for being exactly as the stock one.
peter holst
31-10-12, 08:30
Did you write a letter to Santa Clause? Haha. I hope you were a good boy this year :)
I asked my wife and she said ok so I don´t need santa :)
Hahaha.... Sure, me too.... My wife is my Santa :) we hope until Saturday the parts will be done. Next step is front and rear GTA bumber and side skirts
Steve Webb
31-10-12, 08:45
Must resist the temptation to make jokes about your wives as Santa.
Can't wait to see the bumpers and skirts.
It was a joke. At least my wife don't want to put money in my car.... She prefer to buy new heels :) but her permission is like a present, even I pay for that
peter holst
31-10-12, 11:18
It was a joke. At least my wife don't want to put money in my car.... She prefer to buy new heels :) but her permission is like a present, even I pay for that
funny how the relationships are the same many places in the world.
My wife can get high heels too :)
peter holst
31-10-12, 11:18
will the front be GTA style?
Front, rear and side skirts will be same as GTA
Steve Webb
31-10-12, 17:06
It was a joke.
Yeah but i was thinking more along the lines of being a little on the large side and needing a shave. :tasty:
But i thought better of it as it probably won't stand up to translation.
Hi there,
I am building a Q4 to use as a race car and am looking for a bodykit for the car.
Have you finished manufacturing the bodykit yet ? And if so are they ready for sale yet?
Many thanks,
Colin
Hello Wobbs, the body kit is not ready yet. You will be informed by Steve when it will be ready for sale. It will be in berlinasportivo's shop
dukesracing
08-11-12, 07:31
work in progress today, you will have photos soon
peter holst
08-11-12, 08:58
Great!
Some parts
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/066D6717-881D-4373-8AAC-7F2EAF3CC9BF-6991-0000033F65BCBD78.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/45E1A52E-9AFF-47D5-BBAC-B9D25C057F25-6991-0000033F25F1BCF8.jpg
Fitting day
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/99E47836-BEFB-4398-9988-B1B9CD10BFB1-1764-00000064CDE8EB8B.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/B081B1AB-02F5-4DFC-BDDB-07D2E013C877-1764-00000064E0D6E3B9.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/5A840BCB-D7CA-4320-A30D-260EE37BECCD-1764-000000651429DB5F.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/79D42686-3EB2-49BA-B3F0-F39DDD83622D-1764-000000653DE5791C.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/6A3DE9F7-DE2A-45E4-9144-2B007B4F1D59-1764-000000654DD82664.jpg
alfa155chris
11-11-12, 07:58
Looking very good mate top work
Fitting day
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fantastic work :)
please more high quality shoots
regards
W
Thanks guys, these photos are taken with my mobile phone and the quality is not so good. I will post detailed photos when the project will finish and I will go for photoshooting
The body kit looks absolutely fantastic :clap:
Top work mate!
Alfista155
12-11-12, 06:46
:hyper:WOW! That looks absolutely awesome! congrats on your work
can't wait for the "serial production"...bye bye piggybank:hyper:
jimnielsen
12-11-12, 19:00
Great Job! The car is looking great.
Thank you all mates for your nice words, until now the results look as we hoped.... I hope the best now for the bumbers and side skirts
Varypodaros
13-11-12, 12:29
Nice job Mpampis...
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/1263EBCD-ACAD-4F9E-950C-EC41EB0A4796-1888-0000013FAD9E0F51.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/A54CD5F7-7A3D-4865-B5B8-822EFA2A8C10-1888-0000013FDAA2134E.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/A87F0F85-A7A6-4115-9DA4-174353264966-1888-000001400095FDA3.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/1489A59C-BD08-4FE2-B9C8-3A2591C2537B-1888-000001407258C9EB.jpg
:cool: :smoke: :clap:
A job wel done!
This is looking great :clap: :clap:
Congrats again,
have You measured how much weight has been saved ?:)
regards
WS
have You measured how much weight has been saved ?:)
No mate. We place the oem rear doors and trunk because we dont have the parts yet. When we will finish all car we will Start replacing these parts with the new one. I just was hurry to close the car to drive it and to programme my new ecu with my laptop. As I see until now the doors are very heavy. About 30- 35 kg each ( with glass etc) I hope I will be at least 70kg lighter
Steve Webb
25-11-12, 08:39
That looks stunning now, have the rear lights been tinted as well? It all looks very very mean. Can't wait to see the finished article.
Thanks Steve. This week we will have ready the models of rear bumper and side skirts so I hope next week we will go for the final stage, the front bumper. Tomorrow the new and bigger intercooler will arrive too :)
Placing the new intercooler
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/CB2D2CF4-FDCF-49AC-8F7A-E3E4B0B18FEF-760-000000357F8F0E6D.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/B5A3C511-7055-43AB-B189-0549E9BBB446-760-000000358FC49102.jpg
Steve Webb
02-12-12, 16:44
I can see why you need the new front bumper. That intercooler is never going to fit behind a standard one.
Did you have to fit the intercooler first so you could make sure the new bumper covers everything?
Loving the work as ever.
Yes steve, i didn't want to cut the front part for placing the intercooler higher ( i don't know the word in english) so i place it in front. This doesn't matters because we will build the new bump with the intercooler placed
First drive today :)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/08F6E410-75CF-4F10-BA1A-FB59504BADAE-4769-000002ADB35C1DE2.jpg
First drive today :)
impressions ?
what about efficiency, and "resistance" for air flow ?
how about lag?,
what kind of Turbo are You using ?
is this something out of the shelf, or it is made on request for You?.
i know a lot of questins :D
Haha. Its ok about question. I have a chineese T3/T4 stage 3 wheel .64 ar from xspower. I have no lag in case with my old intercooler but in the same settings in boost controler i have 0.2 bar boost less. Ex at 60% to my dsbc boost controller i had 1.7 bar boost and with this intercooler o have 1.51 bar. I will buy a gt35r now so i will fill this intercooler better. I bought the intercooler from www.toyosports.co.uk for about 100 euros. :)
Steve Webb
04-12-12, 09:20
How thick is the new intercooler? Is it thicker than the old one.
Also did you manage to take any temperature measurements to compare between the old an new intercoolers?
How thick is the new intercooler? Is it thicker than the old one.
Also did you manage to take any temperature measurements to compare between the old an new intercoolers?
it's really strange that almost no one makes single side (inlet/outlet) IC with downflow design, something similar to daltaparts design,
so there will be not much piping, and a lot less turbo lag...
by the way heve You considered using EVO9 turbo ?
heard much opinions about very very fast spooling, and suitable power ratios.
regards
WS
It is 10mm thicker than the old one. The new one is 76mm thick. I hear a lot for evo's turbo but i have to change the exhaust manifold too. The second thing is that with evo's turbo i can't go to 600 or more hp. Steve i can measure the air temperature with my RP-LAB programmable ecu but now here we have 6 degrees celcium and i can't compare with previous measurments. With my old intercooler with 17 degrees celcium at 1.7 bar boost i had 39 degrees inlet air at 7000 rpm so i have to compare with same conditions
Not very good photos but we are in the final way
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/29DB171C-427C-4A7B-80D1-0D7407F6C922-9891-0000062C8F282681.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/7C5EBB25-1682-492B-9097-53F1574AA881-8853-000005BD94AE3682.jpg
Steve Webb
22-12-12, 16:26
Is that part of the bumper based on the standard 155 bumper? Its difficult to see with it being that colour.
Steve Webb
22-12-12, 16:57
Are you going for this look :
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5397/1d7959ae.jpg
or this one:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6756/alfa155gta20070610civmedf7.jpg
I will build the second one Steve. We build it with parts from the stock bumper. Piece by piece and it is about 50mm thicker and of course wider so a lot of work. Same filosophie for the rear bumper too. We build bumpers and sideskirts exactly as the second photo you uploaded. 100% replica for the bumpers.
I would like to ask you all if you know how to find the gta spoiler. I'm asking that because it is hard to wait to manufacture this from zero.
The GTA bumpers are the best from my side too.
Not sure were to look for a GTA original front bumper as they are so rare, even replicas would be very hard to find and wouldn't be cheap either...
As for the rear one, are you after the one in the 2 pics below ?
PS: Are the bumpers (F/R) you want to build going to fit the 155 WB too or just the ones with GTA kit you already have? Thanks.
Cris
Hi Cris, i don't search about bumpers because we produce these right now. I'm searching for the spoiler on the trunk (maybe the correct word is not spoiler) if i don't find we will manufacture this too. The bumpers we are making for my project are about 80mm wider so they will look better with wide fenders
Steve Webb
23-12-12, 17:27
Is it this spoiler you are after:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3369/4638865239_42a7de0841.jpg
or this one?
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5747/0alfa155tiz.jpg
I think the second one is more subtle, from a Ti-z , I think Subaru used something similar. The first one is the correct GTA spoiler, but looks a little too universal.
Yes Steve. The first one with double wings
Work in progress
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/67ED36E3-7B51-4BF9-A9C6-00890E3E457B-21364-00000DBB11B7D853.jpg
Billy_Bear
28-12-12, 22:10
I love it. You do a really nice job. It's a perfect mix between racing car and a legal street car look ( in switzerland it could very hard to pass the MOT and police control ;) , but for a racing car is it perfect).
Greets to greece
Steve Webb
29-12-12, 08:05
Work in progress
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/67ED36E3-7B51-4BF9-A9C6-00890E3E457B-21364-00000DBB11B7D853.jpg
I like that, nice and purposeful without looking too mad. Can't wait to see it painted.
Everytime I see your work a thought comes to my mind again and again: to start one more project like the one I've had before. Just better. It doesn't seems to me that bad and this seriously scares me. Strange! I might need professional help...
Projects are our creation.... For sure i want to do something new too even i don't finish this one. My dream is to prepare a veloce gta but i need a chassis first of all and secondly MONEY.... Hahahaha i hope everything will go well to the projects we all have in our mind
First it's the dream, true? :smile:
I wish to you and everyone in here good luck and everything else needed to fulfil your dreams!
Cheers,
Cris.
Some progress
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/D73D4425-E276-4E07-9AC5-D35F688ECE9B-8948-0000067119E56D31.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/934369A9-3AC5-449A-9FA9-D6049B809EEA-8948-00000670DF091095.jpg
Varypodaros
07-01-13, 17:26
Nice job Mpampis.
Steve Webb
10-01-13, 07:21
Liking that bumper, nice and different . Looks very professional as well. Whats it going to be made of eventually?
It is still in construction Steve. We make scale from many photos with gta bumper and now some details left to make it the same
alfa155chris
10-01-13, 09:58
I liking the look of the front bumper
As the progress is going on, it looks more close to what i want
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/88FCF72A-5908-4195-A4AB-9909D94B199E-4068-000002CFF56FAEF7.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/2403901B-E25E-4217-98F3-EAB507B3F438-4068-000002CFE441E489.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/756BF3C9-2F1E-46FA-A5F5-FD681EAD762C-4068-000002CFD11A9B6A.jpg
peter holst
11-01-13, 05:05
And to what I want:)
Peter as you see it is not very easy but the result is nice
Steve Webb
11-01-13, 09:17
That is looking great, very professional.
Thank you Steve. I apreciate that you all like our work
peter holst
27-01-13, 14:11
any progress?
I have a pair of DTM spoilers you can borrow to make moulds if you want. I can have them back when the kit is being send to denmark :)
peter holst
27-01-13, 14:15
not spoilers - but skirts
english is not my best :)
Well good news finally! At the end of the week we are 99% sure that all the parts will be ready for painting. The hole project costs me a lot of time and of course i got tired to wait almost 6 months. You will have the results at the end of the week.
Peter could you send me a photo of the skirts please? Who knows, maybe we could make something more close to the reality because side skirts were very difficult
Steve Webb
27-01-13, 17:24
Thats really great news, looking forward to seeing it all bolted together and painted.
peter holst
28-01-13, 06:13
Peter could you send me a photo of the skirts please? Who knows, maybe we could make something more close to the reality because side skirts were very difficult[/QUOTE]
I will take a picture in the week - the skirts are from an DTM alfa form 1993 or 1994 so they a close to the org GTA
Final steps
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/9C82ED57-A7A0-4DF4-B439-BF82F9E62586-1364-000000FCF78DCC70.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/8C9FE93E-0AFF-4E2A-8226-8D297E884334-1364-000000FCE3574C83.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/1DD3E985-B7FC-4A9B-A71A-505009B816B5-1364-000000FCC2134114.jpg
Now that is great, it sits so close to the original but at the same time it is such a good and discreet tunning/styling finish . Excelent work you're doing with it!!! I've mixed words preety bad here but you know what I meant...:clap:
Too bad for me it will not work with the widebody. Maybe it will do fine for another 155 Q4 GTA project...:unsure:
Cheers,
Cris.
Now that is great, it sits so close to the original but at the same time it is such a good and discreet tunning/styling finish . Excelent work you're doing with it!!! I've mixed words preety bad here but you know what I meant...:clap:
Too bad for me it will not work with the widebody. Maybe it will do fine for another 155 Q4 GTA project...:unsure:
Cheers,
Cris.
Why will not work with WB ?
all the panels, from fenders, (fornt rear, rear doors, bumpers front and rear, boot?) are changed.....
so it should be easy swap.. if the parts will be available :)
i'm also waiting for this project to finish :hyper: and be able to meaby order these parts :D:D:D
Thank you mate. As i see with my eyes everything is possible. The only difficult job is the first car that you build it from zero. So it is possible to make these bumper to fit to the stock wide body Q4. It is enough to find a good person with "fine hands" to transform it :)
It is enough to find a good person with "fine hands" to transform it :)
That is the most interesting part, indeed.:wah:
peter holst
01-02-13, 09:36
any idea what the price for the set will be?
I don't know yet because i have some other modification to do too. All the parts are ready today and we will make moulds to have them ready for copies. In the next week we will paint them and you will see it ready.
Thats great news! I cant wait to see kit for sale here!
Realy nice work!
Coly
peter holst
05-02-13, 08:58
will the doors be made in fiberglass?
We have already moulds of the rear doors Peter. We will make rear doors in fiberglass too. The only parts we don't make moulds are the front doors... That means that we can make a full car in fiber glass :) :) :)
peter holst
05-02-13, 11:05
great . I can get the front doors in hungary :)
Do you mean there is someone in Hungary that makes the front doors in fiber?
peter holst
07-02-13, 07:41
yes. there is a guy racing an alfa 155 D2 who has moulds for the hole car :)
While making moulds
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/A4944D12-F5BC-4B90-8809-66653BA1892D-12504-00000A0C8D28C270_zps27834f0a.jpg
Steve Webb
09-02-13, 14:10
I bet you can't wait to get it all finished and bolted back together. How long has it been off the road for now?
It is almost 6 months. For sure i can't wait to drive it
I bet you can't wait to get it all finished and bolted back together. How long has it been off the road for now?
i think that not only he is waiting for that moment :D
regards
W
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/2741B2C6-0FB6-4CB7-AFE8-14F927032C72-35473-00001E774829D1D5_zpsa29712b0.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/0522CC99-8632-41FE-85A4-585D151CC21B-35473-00001E773948B9DE_zps2a1c3ce0.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/D3C580A6-0C09-4178-A00C-8998D09E95F3-35473-00001E7726CD840D_zpsf7e6790d.jpg
Wooow !
Come on..your work deserves better/bigger pics, please... :thumbsup:
Cheers.
Cris
Stunning!
Please do a proper photo shoot with it soon.
Today i will bring my photo and i will take good quality photos
alfa155chris
25-02-13, 09:36
What jack said
Steve Webb
25-02-13, 09:53
Love the way that bumper changes the way the rear of the car looks. Much less bulky and more meaningful.
I agree though, wait for a sunny day (you've had a bit of rain where you are recently haven't you?) and do a proper photo shoot. Can't wait to see some hi-res pics of the finished car.
dukesracing
25-02-13, 10:09
after many rainy days, we finally finish this project! it was very difficult to make this bodykit only by photos! some details we are finishing today and photoshooting is close. Steve i will make you an offer for the parts just for berlinasportivo.
have a nice day
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/36308FF0-3E19-443F-BAEE-D26326E9BAF6-35731-00001E8DC739B259_zps6ffef8a8.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/3094D25D-6A80-4F47-87C0-2997E1EBC66D-35731-00001E8DB196B303_zps3b4cebd0.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/82D1D8B1-E2C2-4338-9C8E-7A2815691CE9-35731-00001E8DA5BD1CEA_zpsb3ea8540.jpg
Steve Webb
25-02-13, 12:15
Wow that front bumper makes a big difference. It looks so much better on the car.
alfa155chris
25-02-13, 12:52
I'm really liking that top job
Mnah...let's say it's OK.
(Guys... don't show yourselves too impressed so you don't lift the price too high! :tongue:)
Just kidding, you've done a wonderful work there !!! Congrats!
Cris
alfa155chris
25-02-13, 13:40
Mnah...let's say it's OK.
(Guys... don't show yourselves too impressed so you don't lift the price too high! :tongue:)
Just kidding, you've done a wonderful work there !!! Congrats!
Cris
Pmsl
Alfa Patch
25-02-13, 15:31
Great stuff, especially the back.
Looks very mean
peter holst
25-02-13, 15:51
Now we are only wating for the price.....
I have already talk to Kostas from dukesracing to comunicate with Steve.
I also change the 5th gear with the longer one from 2.5 TD. Not more than 5 minutes case
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/946285DA-4DBF-4AF4-9FCD-130F577CE0CF-36184-00001EE4D67FDED9_zpsa44169b3.jpg
I have already talk to Kostas from dukesracing to comunicate with Steve.
I also change the 5th gear with the longer one from 2.5 TD. Not more than 5 minutes case
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/946285DA-4DBF-4AF4-9FCD-130F577CE0CF-36184-00001EE4D67FDED9_zpsa44169b3.jpg
and ? everything works properly ?:)
regards
w
I just try all gears with stopped egine to see if the synchro is working nice. I didn't go out to see it on the road
as i promised i took some better quality photos today. you can see them here
http://forum.berlinasportivo.com/showthread.php?p=24986#post24986
New toy just arrived. I feel like a real man now. Hahaha
Gt 3582 R
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/mpamphnos/D26E5733-01F0-4826-9D08-B3C5541FDD96-289-0000000204869411_zps9eff2d72.jpg
:ohmy::ohmy:
That's a huge turbo :hyper:
i guess i am ready to blow my gearbox now...hahahahaha
Alfa Patch
13-03-13, 22:27
That is awesome!! How much boost do you expect to run with that?
Looking forward to seeing it on
By now max boost 1.4 bar this is very big turbo and i hope about 500hp. If i want more i am sure i need bigger fuel pumb and bigger injectors
Alfa Patch
14-03-13, 17:08
Wow. How strong is the rear diff on these cars?
That will be seriously quick and will sound amazing. Please post some video or a YouTube link of the car once done.
I have many videos in my youtube channel but with me previous turbo. When i will fit the new one for sure i will take new videos. My chanel in youtube is "mpamphnos"
Mpampis did you do the Dyno tune?
Tell us about your car's performance.
Hmm great work.. I like the photos of your work... actually i am not much familiar with all this work because I am just beginner in all this work. So this is really impressive (http://www.allvehicleaccessories.com.au/) for me. Thanks for sharing.
This is awesome work, great to see the finished product. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Very good project :thumbsup:. You have a serious Q4 ;)
Do you have some data from dyno after GT35R upgrade? Do you have some new info about the car.
I have seen your car on this site also -> link (http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/56853/modified-alfa-romeo-155-q4-1996-pictures).
Hi man!
First of all, great work... And great car!
And how it is going now? After some time?
Everything is ok or?
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