Data logging

[Brul(tm)]

Sooner or later I want to use data logging when running again. I am far away from this objective, but I would like to know what people here on Berlina Sportivo are using.

We all have seen nice graphs and film material from Jim and his progress at the track :thumbsup:

I already purchased an LC-1 and AFR gauge because this is the very basic required when starting to work on your engine (in my opinion).
Besides this I already have a boost gauge (Defi Link system), limmited in logging options.

Innovate has some nice products (DL-32) that could help me in gathering this data. (temperatures, boost, etc.)

I would like to hear what others are using for data logging and what their experiences are on this subject. I want to figure out if the DL-32 is the tool for me or should I consider something else?

Regards,
Marc

[Q4Jan]

Marc, not to sound annoying, but please get the car running before worrying about less important stuff. Time to focus, at last. How many years since the car was alright?

[Brul(tm)]

That was not the question ;)
Some things come together at some point that is usefull to pay attention.
Still short of time, but on schedule :)

Regards,
Marc

[jimnielsen]

Marc, I am using a race technology DL-1. I have found that the most important thing about these devices is 'ease of use'. It has to be simple to connect sensors and to retrieve data - or you will end up with no data. My DL-1 is the original version - the new one is even better in that it has more inputs. its amazing how fast you can use up the ports..

I am logging..

Boost pressure
oil pressure
oil temp
water temp
fuel pressure
RPM
speed (in two different ways)
air inlet temp (before intercooler)
air inlet temp (at manifold)

~jim..

[jNk]

Not really data logging so slighty offtopic but simple reading : Which program can read our ECU via an ELM327 USB interface with the proper cable ?
My mechanic has bought an ELM327 USB interface and diagnostic cables and i tried several programs but none of them could communicate with my cars ECU. We tested the interface and the cable with a 156 ECU with success.
I found the FiatEcuScan program but not yet tested it although i cannot found our ECU in that programs database.

ps.: Last year we tried a pro device, namely the Bosch KTS 540. My mechanics 155 1.8 was communicate with it, My Q4 wasnt.

[Brul(tm)]

Not really data logging so slighty offtopic but simple reading : Which program can read our ECU via an ELM327 USB interface with the proper cable ?
My mechanic has bought an ELM327 USB interface and diagnostic cables and i tried several programs but none of them could communicate with my cars ECU. We tested the interface and the cable with a 156 ECU with success.
I found the FiatEcuScan program but not yet tested it although i cannot found our ECU in that programs database.

ps.: Last year we tried a pro device, namely the Bosch KTS 540. My mechanics 155 1.8 was communicate with it, My Q4 wasnt.

Try this link (http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/UniDiag/). But I am not sure if Sander already had time to look into the Q4 ecu, this is different than the other 155's. Last time I looked at this, it still wasn't possible. He also offers a caple to connect through USB.

Regards,
Marc

[Brul(tm)]

I have found that the most important thing about these devices is 'ease of use'. It has to be simple to connect sensors and to retrieve data - or you will end up with no data.

Thanks Jim, very usefull feedback :thumbsup:
I agree with you that it needs to be simple an easy to operate and install. That is what I am looking for. I need to install and operate it ;)

I'll take a look at the DL-1 you mentioned. Is this (http://www.race-technology.com/description_8_956.html) the logger you use?
It sounds like it will do the same as the Innovate DL-32, i will compare them.

Regards,
Marc

[jimnielsen]

Marc, I have never seen the Innovate DL-32, but having had a look at it just now it has a couple of interesting features..

1. an inbuilt map sensor (I use an external one with my DL-1)
2. a 5v+ output to drive sensors (the DL-1 has one too and this is essential..)

You might want to have a look at the main analysis software and compare the two systems as this is where you get to see your data.. The Race technology system has been well developed over a number of years, and has a lot of good features especially ones that make it simple to 'map' 3rd party sensors into the system..

have a look at the user forums on the innovate website to see what issues people have the device. I will look at this system myself, I think it looks very keen for the price..

cheers., jim..

[Brul(tm)]

Today the mailman arrived with a big box that makes me smile :clap:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n288/BrulTM/Alfa%20155%20Q4%20repair/parts_/IMG_9351.jpg

What's in it.... :nahnahna:



















LC-1 lambda controller with sensor
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n288/BrulTM/Alfa%20155%20Q4%20repair/parts_/IMG_9352.jpg

And of course a gauge for realtime display in the car.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n288/BrulTM/Alfa%20155%20Q4%20repair/parts_/IMG_9353.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n288/BrulTM/Alfa%20155%20Q4%20repair/parts_/IMG_9354.jpg

More packages on the way, but they are engine parts and tools ;)

Regards,
Marc

[jimnielsen]

How come you needed two AFR's??

[Brul(tm)]

How come you needed two AFR's??

I don't. This went a bit wrong in the confusion of the discontinuing the XD-1. The idea was to use "a" gauge in combination with the LC-1 for displaying the AFR results.

Regards,
Marc

[jimnielsen]

I am using this...

http://www.moates.net/ometer-combo-offers-p-134.html?cPath=48

as an incar display for the LC-1


jim..

[AlfaJack]

This Innovate kit is what I am after for my setup - later this year when funds might allow (not counting on it though!)