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I tried yet again to removed the quick shift kit but failed, again. The lower nut just spins on the thread - it has been done up too tight in the past. Only way I can see is to get the dremel in there and grind it off.
I tried levering the bracket to force the nut on to the threads but it wouldn't take - seems to have left it all a bit loose now with stress marks in the red alloy plate. Need to sort it at some point but it still shifts for now - just slops a bit back and forth when gear engaged.
I did however get some measurements as a start. I will try and draw these later on a post them up. Maybe Jim might be able to confirm them if they are easily accessible - the red plate on mine has been modified a bit to lower the hole where rose joint (think it is a rose) attaches.
Jack
P.S - What is the trick to remove that one way washer type fixing on the lower part of the second photo?
Steve Webb
14-02-11, 08:48
P.S - What is the trick to remove that one way washer type fixing on the lower part of the second photo?
Those sorts of washers usually work loose by themselves, but I've always found getting a small screwdriver behind them and wiggling them off works.
Those sorts of washers usually work loose by themselves, but I've always found getting a small screwdriver behind them and wiggling them off works.
Tried the screw driver and stanley knife - it's just in an awkward place though.
Those washers are a pain in the arse, you'll just have to rip it off, they usually break :?
wrinx
peter holst
17-02-11, 09:07
it would be great if you and jim could construct a drawing.
jimnielsen
17-02-11, 09:56
I will do one. mine comes off easily!
peter holst
17-02-11, 16:34
GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D im waiting for them to.. i realy wish to have "quick shift" :D
I started doing a 3D drawing of this last night. It's damn hard for an amateur, will persist and try and tidy it up with the info from Jim unless he can come up with something better.
jimnielsen
23-02-11, 10:40
jack - I can only get the red piece off as well - the blue piece on mine has the same funny one way washer. the car is on the hoist, and I cant get good access to the inside at the moment. Also the car is in 10,000 pieces, but I need to get it all assembled for a race next weekend.. so, I shouldn't have gone shooting my mouth off about doing a drawing..
I will have a better look at it in the week after the 5/6th march..
jim.
I will try to make approximately authentic, it doesn't matter for a little mistake.
I thought that I create a two part with grinder and then put together with screws...
When I do that, it will be posted here...
2nd solution is to do on milling cutter/gnawer
3th solution is the best. on CNC machine, it is most expensive solution but if it were more pieces it will be cheaper per one piece...
I will try to make approximately authentic, it doesn't matter for a little mistake.
I thought that I create a two part with grinder and then put together with screws...
When I do that, it will be posted here...
2nd solution is to do on milling cutter/gnawer
3th solution is the best. on CNC machine, it is most expensive solution but if it were more pieces it will be cheaper per one piece...
I don't quite follow, are you looking to make one from a drawing I am doing or do you have your own one quick shift plates to copy?
jack - I can only get the red piece off as well - the blue piece on mine has the same funny one way washer. the car is on the hoist, and I cant get good access to the inside at the moment. Also the car is in 10,000 pieces, but I need to get it all assembled for a race next weekend.. so, I shouldn't have gone shooting my mouth off about doing a drawing..
I will have a better look at it in the week after the 5/6th march..
jim.
No problem Jim :)
@jim
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I made model of cardboard for right side.
1. On the picture is two pieces of 'steel'.
2. You need to cut with grinder one of these like you can see on picture 2.
3. Than, you can weld together and drill two holes.
Procedure is same for the left side.
What do you think about my idea?
Steve Webb
23-02-11, 17:23
That looks like a pretty neat solution to producing the kit. Fairly time intensive though. Be nice to find a machine shop who could mill the brackets for the kit though.
Cool...I can give up on my 3D drawing then :D This is how far I got.
I started doing a 3D drawing of this last night. It's damn hard for an amateur, will persist and try and tidy it up with the info from Jim unless he can come up with something better.
Perhaps you're making it too hard for yourself?
A 2D drawing (front, side and plan) with measurements would be better imho :)
wrinx
Steve Webb
23-02-11, 21:08
Is the quick shift kit Steel or anodised Aluminium? Just thinking that Alu might be cheaper\easier to get machined if its up to the job.
Steve Webb
28-02-11, 10:11
Had a look at the gear linkage whilst I was in the car yesterday, I don't think I had appreciated just how small some of it was. If I get time this week I might have a look into how best to replicate the short shift kit.
Jack: That hard to remove washer, was that the original one fitted to the gearshift or was it part of the kit?
I don't know as it came fitted to the car. There are a few bits which I wonder are part of the kit or OEM bits. Hopefully Santino knows?
Steve Webb
28-02-11, 20:43
Thinking about this today, I did wonder if it was possible to use a piece of Alu bar to create the bracket. Cut out the U shaped piece with a grinder, then fold the bar over onto itself and shape the kink into the bar.
Rather than push the locking washer all the way down the original shaft you could use a thick alu washer\pipe to brace the bracket against the washer.
Then use a bolt\threaded bar as the new mounting point for the gear shift cable.
Might give it a go one evening.
Had a look at the gear linkage whilst I was in the car yesterday, I don't think I had appreciated just how small some of it was. If I get time this week I might have a look into how best to replicate the short shift kit.
Jack: That hard to remove washer, was that the original one fitted to the gearshift or was it part of the kit?
Part of the kit, if it's the black washer to the right:
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/s/?@0_mall/ggshop/cabinet/00552638/bollente_sift.jpg
wrinx
I would to improvise adapter with screw and two screwnuts on the other side instead of retainer ring.
With a little bit of axle grease will work great!
Come on buddy's it's not complicate circuit and doesn't be a factory solution. Anyone of us can make at home...
Do it yourself!:wave:
Steve Webb
02-03-11, 09:42
I'm planning on a diy solution just like you said, apart from using 2 steel sheets, I'm going to try a single piece of Aluminium bar, shaped, then folded. Looks simple enough to do, and there is plenty of space in the gear shift area to make something a little bulkier than is necessary.
Just another job on my to-do list.
peter holst
02-03-11, 18:44
I am not cable to do it my self so I hope some one will make on or a model a machine shop can produce - I will pay what is demanded
Does anyone knows how much is thickness one of alu parts?
I will try to make much more on cnc machine and I can send everyone who needs...
anything new on the kit produce?
Does anyone knows how much is thickness one of alu parts?
Jack...?
wrinx
Sorry, didn't see that question. I think it was 6mm.
I got the offer yesterday... One set cost 30 eur with 5mm aluminium and cnc finishing...
I'll try to install in my v6 this weekend.
We'll be in touch!
peter holst
11-03-11, 08:10
hop it works. I want it!!!!
im in for the buy of 1 set!!!
I?ll have 2 sets of these :D
Steve Webb
17-03-11, 08:09
Lets hope they fit correctly and work. Then I suppose its time to post up a group buy post.
I'm in to buy a set too, if it works as planned.. :)
I need more time, I haven't yet set.
I hope this weekend...
Steve Webb
18-03-11, 10:18
I need more time, I haven't yet set.
I hope this weekend...
Take your time, as a Q4 owner you get used to having to wait for things!
Good work.
geniusmiki
28-03-11, 00:22
interested about, too
Steve Webb
29-03-11, 09:24
I need more time, I haven't yet set.
I hope this weekend...
Have you managed to get it test fitted yet?
im wondering the same ?? :D
Steve Webb
21-04-11, 08:16
Not heard from Santino for a while, about how the fitting of the test kit went. Fingers crossed it worked.
geniusmiki
25-06-11, 17:58
any news??
Steve Webb
25-06-11, 19:44
Not heard anything from Santino for quite a while now. I'll give him a prod and see how he got on with it.
I'm in to buy a set too. Count me in.
Steve Webb
13-08-11, 09:51
Time to give Santino a prod over this I think.
Looks like there is plenty of interest for the kit, or at least the plates.
geniusmiki
13-09-11, 22:54
no news? i need it! :lol:
peter holst
14-09-11, 07:30
me too
Steve Webb
14-09-11, 08:36
Its all gone quiet from the member who was creating the prototype version of this, maybe time to see if someone else can get these made up.
ill try to order from japan.. if my friends decode properly their page :)
If somebody have drawing of the kit on autocad or else, we can produce them ;)
So please just give me autocad file.
thats what we are all waiting for.. drawings or something. producing them is easy..
Steve Webb
16-09-11, 16:38
If somebody have drawing of the kit on autocad or else, we can produce them ;)
So please just give me autocad file.
My autocad skill are a little rusty, but I'll see if I can knock something up.
Do you have access to a milling machine that can knock a few of these up?
thats what we are all waiting for.. drawings or something. producing them is easy..
What he said, just need measurements and I can have a go at making a set, no mass production here though :lol-030:
wrinx
hi have anybody cadcam file and measures this parts ?
can we try make it on cnc?
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