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arjunior45
16-01-09, 18:55
today I believe that the 'gearshift cable' {if it's the proper term} is gone and I wonder if someone knows the spare part's number?

arjunior45
16-01-09, 18:58
is it difficult to change this cable? Does anyone have a photo how this cable is in position?

Nick

AlfaJack
16-01-09, 22:42
Your not the first member for it to snap but I cant think of the other...will search for the thread.

EDIT: http://forum.berlinasportivo.org/showthread.php?t=844&highlight=cable

arjunior45
17-01-09, 07:01
Your not the first member for it to snap but I cant think of the other...will search for the thread.

EDIT: http://forum.berlinasportivo.org/showthread.php?t=844&highlight=cable

thanks for the link AlfaJack. Now I can understand its arrangement.
Monday morning I'll try to remove the cables and see which one I need.
Meanwhile do you think it's possible to say, in any way, which one of the two cables is broken, without raising the car? I've already found the one of the two cables - the one towards the right hand - with part number 46413057, but I can not be sure if its the right one, the one which is broken.

Nick

na15575
17-01-09, 09:42
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/rxjxzcon33n1iyc9p9uz.png (http://www.imageshack.gr/view.php?file=rxjxzcon33n1iyc9p9uz.png)

this is for the 93 models
the part number is
10. 60810066
9. 82490005 or 60810142

arjunior45
17-01-09, 10:06
Thanks Nick
for the '95 wb model, my parts CD gave me
No 10.: 60811432 or 46413058 {new part number}
No 9.: 46413057 or 60811433 {new part number}

I found the No9 {46413057} cable in our town {Thessalon?ki} but I believe it's the other one {No10} that is broken and it is the one I can not find it, at least so far.

Strange {rather not that much} but the '95 wb model seams to have different cables, at least as far as I can see in the parts CD drawing and the parts numbers.

Bl...dy FIAT

Nick

arjunior45
17-01-09, 10:20
btw, there are some adapters for short-shift, as Gery83 told me.
See http://www.alfaamore.com/kepnezo/cars/2829?num=0
Does anyone has any info-measurements about? It won't be that difficult to make a couple and mount them as long as my car will be at the mechanic from Monday.
Does they make more 'uncertain' the gear changes? We used something like them in a 206 but they were just a mess and gear-change was far more worst than the oem one, at least for rally use.

Nick

arjunior45
17-01-09, 11:21
or this one http://lanciahf.free.fr/articles.php?id=40
can some translate it?

Nick

wrinx
17-01-09, 11:31
English (http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Flanciahf.free.fr%2Farticles.php %3Fid%3D40&lp=fr_en&btnTrUrl=Translate)

Greek (http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Flanciahf.free.fr%2Farticles.php %3Fid%3D40&lp=fr_el&btnTrUrl=Translate)

But it looks like it's just cutting the gearknob???

wrinx

arjunior45
02-02-09, 09:47
According to the 155 manual there are two different ?gearbox outer linkage? systems. One with ?shafts and rods? {TS models} and the other with ?control cables, {cable version} for the high pick up torque {V6 and Q4} models.
Alfa claims that the ?cable version? has a better ?precision of engagement?!

I?m thinking to change from the cable version to the ?shaft and rods? {because the cables are broken and this made me quite angry}.

What I?d like to ask those that had experience with both the systems ? maybe some who had driven or have a TS and a V6 or Q4 ? is if he had noticed a better precision of gear engagement with the cable version {V6 ? Q4}.

Did anyone made this mod? Exchange from 'shaft and rods' system to 'cable' system or vice versa?

Regards

Nick

cuore_sportivo_155
02-02-09, 14:14
you can't really compare, because the 3 gearboxes (TS, V6 and Q4) are different, and will feel different even when using the same linkage.

the V6 box that my JTD uses aswell, feels more solid than the TS box, but this is no doubt because it's a stronger and thus more solid construction

Juan AR155Q4
02-02-09, 19:34
I?d keep cables. I`ll be doing some teflon bushes to replace the oem rubber things.

Gery83
02-02-09, 20:02
I?d keep cables. I`ll be doing some teflon bushes to replace the oem rubber things.

Something like these?

It makes the shifting real hard, and stiff not really ergonomic... if you know what I mean. I can't really decide, if it was worth it... :doh:

684

Juan AR155Q4
02-02-09, 20:12
Right!!!
I can?t understand what do you mean as "hard". It?s difficult to engage gears? You have to be very precise?

I?ll give it a try anyway, maybe in a softer material.
Have you got the dimensions?

Gery83
02-02-09, 20:43
Right!!!
I can?t understand what do you mean as "hard". It?s difficult to engage gears? You have to be very precise?

I?ll give it a try anyway, maybe in a softer material.
Have you got the dimensions?

You have the feeling that you must push the gears in with force, it just doesen't feel right.

Unfortunately I do not have the dimensions anymore...

arjunior45
03-02-09, 13:37
ok guys, thanks a lot.

btw, does those rubber things go on the gearbox?

Nick

Gery83
03-02-09, 15:45
ok guys, thanks a lot.

btw, does those rubber things go on the gearbox?

Nick

On both sides, gearbox and cabin.